[go star go]

DAMN! I bet you states with the highest number of cars have the highest number of car accidents too! What a concept...

[go star go]

I suppose a man could have concluded from the evidence given that the low gunownership states had such an enlightened population that they intervened with the child before gunplay ensued? You feed a kid enough drugs and they just lay around and would not shoot themselves or others. I bet you the study didn't look at such possibilities...

[Buffalo Bob]

More children are recruited into homosexuality
in areas with high homosexual infestation rates!

[lavaroise]

What morons. They should stay away from defining me according to their sick books and mind because I own a gun. Talk about people who pretend to be against vigilantism of the kind seen in Afghanistan. Maybe they should join those muslim crowds and child killers. Seems like they fit the crowd in their definitional and "scientifical" vigilantism.

A 2 cents web site

www.vigilantealert.i8.com

[metesky]

"Although no conclusions about cause and effect can be made, this study provides compelling evidence that states with high firearm availability are states with high childhood firearm death rates," Dr. Therese Richmond of the University of Pennsylvania's Firearm Injury Center wrote in an editorial.

Doctoress Richmond contradicts herself after mistakenly letting the cat out of the bag.

If one can draw no conclusions, there is no compelling evidence.

What is "is".

[.45MAN]

Something just doesn't smell right here, and I don't think it's my computer.....

[aruanan]

Journal of Trauma: More U.S. Children Die Where Guns Are Common-Study

And how many children die where bicycles are common? The number of childhood gun injuries per gun is minuscule compared to the number of childhood injuries per bicycle (or car). And how many assaults against families were halted, resulting in no death or injuries, because of a gun? Failing to report this and concentrating on the other is like reporting, "FOOD KILLS--The Shame of America. Sub-Saharan Africa has a much lower rate of childhood obesity-related diseases than the dangerous U.S.A.. What Are We Doing Wrong?"

[fporretto]

This is what Thomas Sowell called "bundling" in his book The Vision Of The Anointed. We have three bad things bundled together -- murder, suicide, and accidental death. Murder is unlikely to be the result of owning a firearm; it's much more likely to be the consequence of being targeted by a predator, especially when the victim is a preadolescent child. We also have a sneaky ball-under-the-shirt play: "regions with high firearms ownership." (Legal firearms ownership? And how much greater than the level of firearms ownership of the "low firearms ownership" regions was that in the "high firearms ownership" regions? Did the measure used include illegally owned guns?)

Still more unqualified and unquantified factors remain. At no time are we told whether law enforcement or gang violence played any part in the deaths. At no time are we told about per capita juvenile death rates. At no time are we told about non-firearm-related juvenile deaths for the trial period. And of course, as others have already noted, no attention is paid to net effects: how many lives were saved by private use of firearms.

Just one more day in media hell.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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[GnL]

"Although no conclusions about cause and effect can be made..."

This is the only part of the article that is worth the pixels it is written on. The rest is mere slight of hand and brainwashing.

[Joe Brower]

[Ajnin]

BOSTON (Reuters) - Children are much more likely to be murdered, commit suicide or die accidentally because of guns in states and regions with higher levels of bullsh*t according to a new study by Harvard researchers.

[mcook4]

Why doesnt this "study" take into account the mainly male minority gangbangers in the 10 to 18 year old age group or the kids killed by gang bangers in drive by shootings? Is it not illegal for a "child" to even own a firearm?

[Kermit]

First of all, I distrust any study on guns and gun ownership out of Harvard. The lefties are willing to lie, cheat and steal to support their ideology. I'll reserve my judgment on the study until critics get ahold of it an exam it. We do know that accidental firearm deaths have been declining for decades, while the number of guns have been skyrocketing.

Second, I wonder how a Harvard Health Study would be accepted, if it looked at the deaths caused by vaccines and ignored the lives saved by vaccinations? We also know from John Lott's study and other studies that gun ownership reduces the number of murders, assaults, rapes and robberies and especially those public run amok killers. How many lives does widespread gun ownership save?

Third, if simple gun ownership kills kids, shouldn't the police and the military be disarmed too? If not, isn't that putting other priorities above the lives of kids? Just wondering.

[antidisestablishment]

In that period, 6,817 children between 5 and 14 years old died from firearms

I find it most interesting that they chose to limit the children's ages. In most "guns kill children" studies, the "children's" ages range up to 19. I imagine this "significant" difference in child mortality disappears quite rapidly around 16. ;)

Given control of a dataset, you can prove anything. Statistics is so much fun!

[School of Rational Thought]

Clearly manufactured data. Certainly at least a mix of legally and illegally owned guns and no account for lives SAVED by gun use.

[TheRedSoxWinThePennant]

according to a new study by Harvard researchers.

thats as far as i had to go

[Intimidator]

Please post a barf alert next time.

[AAABEST]

Accidental Death Rates for Children (ages 0-14)
Cause	Number
Motor Vehicle	3,059
Drowning	1,060
Fires, burns	833
Mechanical Suffocation	459
Ingestion of Food or Object	213
Firearms	181
Figures are for 1995. National Safety Council, Accident Facts: 1998 Edition, at 10, 11, 18.

In 1997, the total number of children, ages 0-14 killed  by firearms (all causes) was 629 or 1.7 per day.
National Center for Health Statistics, 1997

Accidental gun deaths among children have declined by over 50 % in 25 years, even though the population (and the gun stock) has continued to increase.
Kopel, Guns: Who Should Have Them?, at 311 and National Safety Council, Accident Facts: 1998 Edition, at 18.

Children 14 and under are over 21 times more likely to die in an automobile, and nearly 8 times more likely to drown than die in an accident with a gun.
Data compiled from National Health Safety Council, Injury Facts, 1999

Courtesy of gunfacts.org

[Khepera]

What a maroon!

[Semper Paratus]

This "Study" will be mentioned all day on MSNBC CNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN.