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Alabama Chief Justice Calls Homosexuality 'Evil' in High Court Decision
Nando Times / AP ^ | 2/18/2002 | Phillip Rawls

Posted on 02/18/2002 2:50:21 PM PST by ex-Texan

Alabama Chief Justice Calls Homosexuality 'Evil' In High Court Decision

By Phillip Rawls

Associated Press

MONTGOMERY, Ala. - In awarding custody of three teenagers to their father instead of their gay mother, Alabama's chief justice on Friday wrote that homosexuality is "an inherent evil" that should not be tolerated.

The nine-judge Alabama Supreme Court ruled unanimously in favor of a Birmingham man and against his ex-wife, who now lives with her gay partner in southern California.

The parents weren't named in court documents to protect the identity of the children, ages 15, 17 and 18.

Chief Justice Roy Moore wrote that the mother's relationship made her an unfit parent and that homosexuality is "abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature."

Moore also quoted scripture, historical documents and previous state court rulings that he said backed his view.

Moore is known for his decision to place washing machine-sized monuments of the Ten Commandments in the state judicial building after he became chief justice last year. He earlier became known nationally as the "Ten Commandments judge" when he fought to keep a plaque of the Biblical commandments in his courtroom as a district judge.

David White, state coordinator for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance of Alabama, said Moore's opinion reflected outdated thinking.

"It's unfortunate Alabama is going to be embarrassed once again by a religious fanatic in a position of power in Alabama," White said. "It's obvious he cannot judge a gay person fairly and he should be removed from office."

John Giles, state president of the Christian Coalition, said Moore's decision protected the institution of marriage and strengthened the traditional family.

The father had held custody since 1996, but the mother petitioned for custody in June 2000, contending the father had been abusive.

John Durward, the father's attorney, said his client "is very relieved." The mother's attorney, Wendy Crew, did not return a telephone call seeking comment.


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To: Burkeman1
"but the insertion of his personal political and religious opinions"

Where did he a'hem...."insert" [LOL] his political opinion?

221 posted on 02/18/2002 8:49:05 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Burkeman1
No- a democracy is a non constitutional body where rights are fluid and according to the will of the people at any chosen time- not so here since we are supposed to be governered by a written code of rights and restraints on the powers of government.

That's what I said--as opposed to your statement that the law is what the people say it is.

Or do you think judges should be able to say the law means whatever they say it means regardless of what it actually says.

I didn't say or imply that--nor did Judge Moore do that, so your argument is a non-sequitor. Judge Moore based his decision on the law. Homosexuality is immoral and evil, and past courts have so ruled.

222 posted on 02/18/2002 9:02:43 PM PST by rimtop56
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To: Burkeman1
"A judge should base his decisions on law and law only- not his personal beliefs."

Our judicial system is based on biblical law so the Judge has every right to state his opinion on the subject; after all, we Christians have to put up with the views and opinions of atheist judges who may also be morally bankrupt.

I'm one of those "love the sinner, hate the sin" kinda person, myself. I lived back in the olden days when homosexuality was considered a mental disease until a group of homosexuals pressured the American Psychiatric Association into modifying its stance on homosexuality which renders the narcissitic component moot, academically, but the roots of homosexuality do not disappear through focusing mainly on the sexual component. There's alot more involved in homosexuality than the sex.

IMHO, we, as a country, better start trying to reverse the effects of liberal/leftist decadence in our society before we spiral down to the point where the good will become prey to the unevolved in our midst.

223 posted on 02/18/2002 10:49:27 PM PST by JusticeLives
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To: ex-Texan
I love it! Let's get this judge on the U.S. Supreme Court. I bet he would have voted down the algores recounts. haha
224 posted on 02/18/2002 10:55:00 PM PST by HOOSIER VALUES
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To: ex-Texan
It seems the case was decided not on the merit of her claim that the father was unfit or abusive but rather that her homosexual relationship (and probably the necessity of removing the underage kids to CA) makes her more unfit or abusive in the eyes of the Alabama court and perhaps to the People of Alabama.

I will assume the Court and State in this case isn't leaving the father to abuse his children. That said, I'm disturbed at the number of "conservative" "freepers" on this thread who would accept judicial activism because they agree with a decision. There's much praise on this thread for the judge following his religious faith, not the law alone or even simply Natural Law, and offer kudos to him for expressed feelings in a judicial opinion. As a judge, not unlike a juror, it's his sworn duty to set aside personal bias--in this case regarding homosexuals and render a decision founded and defended only in legal precident and legal thought.

There was no need to interject 'Biblical precident' into this opinion and that may well, under the operating Church/State separation doctrine, undermine the opinion should it be appealable. IMHO, seemingly easily given over to his passions, he's demonstrated that he hasn't got what it takes to be a Justice. He should be satisfied interpreting and applying the law or find a new line of work.

225 posted on 02/19/2002 12:02:42 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: ex-Texan
I don't know how this case ever got this far. At 15, 17 and 18, these children are old enough to decide where they want to live. If dad was abusive, they would have left on their own.
226 posted on 02/19/2002 1:34:49 AM PST by Angel#3
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To: dogbyte12; RnMomof7
This man is a judge, not a sunday school teacher.

If we had more Sunday School teachers serving as judges, ruling in favor of families instead of perverts,
maybe this country wouldn't be so far gone, our cities tyrannized by hoodlums and criminals.


227 posted on 02/19/2002 1:54:10 AM PST by ppaul
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To: dogbyte12; smolensk
Jesus had a saying you know... When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Huh?

228 posted on 02/19/2002 1:57:40 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Burkeman1
It's not because he uses, GOD FORBID!, the word religion taboo in office apparently, that he based his decision on religious grounds. Words are like color of skin, they have to be taken into context, if not it's racism, or rather, wordism.
229 posted on 02/19/2002 2:40:42 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Burkeman1
A judge should base his decisions on law and law only- not his personal beliefs. That is what conservatives say they oppose.

Not so. What conservatives oppose is the twisting and mangling of Constitutional intent to fit the whims of our latter-day Socialists who infest the halls of power.

I tell you this: If this judge had ruled in 1802 the way he ruled in 2002, not one person would have raised an objection, because in those days this was a Republic understood to be founded on Judaeo-Christian principles.

That said, his ruling will be overturned because the only "religious" principles acceptable in court decisions are those of the God of Marx, Engels and Lenin.

230 posted on 02/19/2002 3:48:42 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Burkeman1
We don't need "god Fearing" judges. We need a god fearing people.

On that we agree. Many of the things we rail at here on FR, we lay at the feet of "leaders." But in our Republic, leaders don't arise as the result of a drunken rally in a Munich beer hall, nor a meteoric rise at the head of a vast army of plebians.

We elect them. When we elect good men and women, we get "good" government that is benign with respect to its own people.

When we elect bad people, we get... Well, we get pretty much what we decry today.

231 posted on 02/19/2002 3:53:11 AM PST by Illbay
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To: irishlass
THE LEFT HATES NATURAL LAW-- thet want the flexibility to distort the rules to suit their goals
232 posted on 02/19/2002 4:27:03 AM PST by Nat Turner
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To: Crawdad
Of course, the concept behind the hebrew word for "fear" in the Old Testament means reverence - hence the command to "fear God." I just wanted to make sure you understood the truth of scripture since there is so much illiteracy and misconception on FR as it relates to the bible.
233 posted on 02/19/2002 4:48:46 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Non-Sequitur
This was a 9-0 Supreme Court decision. Haven't read the case YET, but no doubt the rationale for the case was founded and enuciated clearly in the opinion. The Judge's comments are "dictum"- not an essential foundation for the legal basis.

Note the reporter stated the Court's decision was based on a host of things, including scripture, etc..

234 posted on 02/19/2002 4:50:07 AM PST by GotDangGenius
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To: ex-Texan
A new book was just published claims he was a flaming homosexual and was living openly with another homosexual in Vienna (a city known for perversions of all type and nature)

This is about as credible as a new book claiming that there is a hitherto-unknown fifth Galilean moon of Jupiter. The notion that such a thing could have gone unnoticed until now is ludicrous on its face.

235 posted on 02/19/2002 5:42:38 AM PST by steve-b
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To: ex-Texan
The American Taliban.
237 posted on 02/19/2002 5:51:19 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: ex-Texan
And this is why we should not be electing our Judges by popular vote. He is just butt-kissing the voters who eat this stuff up. I don't know the details of the case -- sounds like custody should be granted to the Father who has remained here in Alabama and not caused upheaval in the home. But all this scripture-quotin' is plain pandering to the ignorant homophobic masses.
238 posted on 02/19/2002 5:53:23 AM PST by ClayHellion
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To: dogbyte12
The bible to the constitution is a straight line sequence. Only lately have we been making it up as we go along...with self evident results. This judge is an original american thinker.
239 posted on 02/19/2002 6:24:51 AM PST by metacognate
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To: ex-Texan
but slowly came around to realize he ex-wife was a sick, vile witch anyway.

I thought that is what all EX's are..

240 posted on 02/19/2002 6:28:10 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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