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Alabama Chief Justice Calls Homosexuality 'Evil' in High Court Decision
Nando Times / AP ^ | 2/18/2002 | Phillip Rawls

Posted on 02/18/2002 2:50:21 PM PST by ex-Texan

Alabama Chief Justice Calls Homosexuality 'Evil' In High Court Decision

By Phillip Rawls

Associated Press

MONTGOMERY, Ala. - In awarding custody of three teenagers to their father instead of their gay mother, Alabama's chief justice on Friday wrote that homosexuality is "an inherent evil" that should not be tolerated.

The nine-judge Alabama Supreme Court ruled unanimously in favor of a Birmingham man and against his ex-wife, who now lives with her gay partner in southern California.

The parents weren't named in court documents to protect the identity of the children, ages 15, 17 and 18.

Chief Justice Roy Moore wrote that the mother's relationship made her an unfit parent and that homosexuality is "abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature."

Moore also quoted scripture, historical documents and previous state court rulings that he said backed his view.

Moore is known for his decision to place washing machine-sized monuments of the Ten Commandments in the state judicial building after he became chief justice last year. He earlier became known nationally as the "Ten Commandments judge" when he fought to keep a plaque of the Biblical commandments in his courtroom as a district judge.

David White, state coordinator for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance of Alabama, said Moore's opinion reflected outdated thinking.

"It's unfortunate Alabama is going to be embarrassed once again by a religious fanatic in a position of power in Alabama," White said. "It's obvious he cannot judge a gay person fairly and he should be removed from office."

John Giles, state president of the Christian Coalition, said Moore's decision protected the institution of marriage and strengthened the traditional family.

The father had held custody since 1996, but the mother petitioned for custody in June 2000, contending the father had been abusive.

John Durward, the father's attorney, said his client "is very relieved." The mother's attorney, Wendy Crew, did not return a telephone call seeking comment.


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To: Burkeman1
I am not opposed to the bible being used by judges in decisions if it is relevant to the basis of the law they are ruling on! I do have a problem with a judge simply saying something is evil or wrong based on his own personal beliefs.

Whether you like it or not, the Constitution and Laws of the United States of America were based on 'Natural Law', that knowledge of right and wrong that God places in the hearts of every person when they are born. The laws of the United States are based on the belief system found in the Bible.

You say that you do not want a judge to base his decisions on his personal beliefs? What if his 'beliefs' are the same as those on which the United States was founded. While they may also be what Justice Moore believes, you can hardly say they are solely his.

Why your antagonism towards a belief system and set of laws based on Biblical principles. Laws based on the Ten Commandments cause no person harm, especially since the laws of the United States were originally based on the last Six Commandments which relate to our dealings with our fellow man. The first four concern our relationship with God and since they do not directly affect relationships between people, a person who is not a Christian should have no fear of them, although there are some idiots who profess to be Christians who might want to impose the first four Commandments on citizens as well, something most Christians would be completely opposed to; including me.

If you do not like laws based on Biblical priciples, what to propose as an alternative?

181 posted on 02/18/2002 6:28:38 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: cactmh
PS: I think the term "masshole" is a mark of pride. It sure beats being a resident of your state:) All in good fun there litl' buddy.
182 posted on 02/18/2002 6:30:05 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
What question was that?

I don't mean any offense, but if you are that dull forget it.

183 posted on 02/18/2002 6:30:45 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: connectthedots
YOu are quite simply wrong. The US Constitution was not based on "natural law"- it was an amalgamtion of historical experience from ancient Rome (Cicero) and historical jurisprudence eminating from the Magna Carta and English Law as well as Locke and Hobbes and others- not to mention the stress of creating a union out of 13 divergent states with different cultures and economic interests. I don't know where where you get this "Natural Law" Strassian view but it is quite laughable.
185 posted on 02/18/2002 6:34:35 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: bjs1779
No- you are the one that dull - since you have no idea and haven't since this thread began of what we are talking about.
186 posted on 02/18/2002 6:35:38 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Harley - Mississippi
Brilliant- wow- I applaud you- great answer. Gee- we just need you and everyone like you to tell us what law is- hell forget law- just tell us how to live and we will obey.
187 posted on 02/18/2002 6:37:14 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Crawdad
Is it going half-circle or full-circle when you go from Roy Moore in Post #1 to "Hitler was a pervert" in Post #153?

It's amazing where these threads end up sometimes. Anyway, congratulations on your 4th FR anniversary yesterday.

188 posted on 02/18/2002 6:40:58 PM PST by Mark Turbo
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To: Crawdad
On the contrary, Sir.

Prov 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

And if, perchance, you were to find yourself in His hand this moment, are you suggesting you would have no fear?

I can assure you that I would.

189 posted on 02/18/2002 6:43:45 PM PST by kickme
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To: connectthedots
Bravo ! Well said 'ctd' ...
190 posted on 02/18/2002 6:48:04 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
GOD RULES!!!
191 posted on 02/18/2002 6:50:48 PM PST by DoWhatsRight
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To: ex-Texan
Bravo? For what? Addressing arguments I didn't make? Geesh- perhaps some of the critics of this site are right- a bunch of yahoos.
192 posted on 02/18/2002 6:54:11 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1;dogbyte12
You obviously don't care about the law. The law backs this judge up %100. Until very recently all states had laws that backed this judge up. It is people like you who just can't stand the truth that have us in the state we are in today. You can't stand the fact that the moral laws given in the bible are a whole lot more than some philosophy being crammed down your throat. The fact is that it can even be proven scientifically that mankind suffers greatly when they do not follow them. You take Aids for example. Many say it came from animals. Well the bible is very clear that man is not to have sex with animals. It does not stop there however because how did it spread to millions of people ? Answer: Sex outside of marriage which is the breaking of another biblical law. So the fact is that we would have no Aids- if biblical law was followed. You can go down the list for each of these moral laws that are broken and you can define the breakup of the family, the turning out of people who are destructive to society, and on and on. To many people with your mind set who have perverted the original laws are the reason we are self destructing as a society today. Grab a seat. You can watch it burn.
193 posted on 02/18/2002 6:57:55 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
I would address your "argument" but since you are obvioulsy ignorant and have not even bothered to read my posts then please go away.
194 posted on 02/18/2002 6:59:53 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
"No need for the judge to say it was an an "evil" act."

No need to even have the word evil in the english language I guess since the word comes from religion. As do the original laws. Evil is as Evil does.

195 posted on 02/18/2002 7:02:45 PM PST by Revel
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To: ex-Texan
Look forward to meeting you next Sunday.
196 posted on 02/18/2002 7:02:55 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: Burkeman1
Bravo? For what? Addressing arguments I didn't make? Geesh- perhaps some of the critics of this site are right- a bunch of yahoos.

You never addressed this question, did you? "If you do not like laws based on Biblical priciples, what to propose as an alternative?"

197 posted on 02/18/2002 7:06:21 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: Revel
oh thanks- what a legal mind!
198 posted on 02/18/2002 7:09:15 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Mark Turbo
Regarding Hitler's sexual perversions ....

(1). A new book was just published claims he was a flaming homosexual and was living openly with another homosexual in Vienna (a city known for perversions of all type and nature);

(2). The OSS published a psychological profile of Hitler during WW II which claimed he enjoyed having women deficate on his chest, along with taking 'golden showers,' among other things; and

(3). Regarding his half-sister's daughter, Geli Raubal, there was from evidence back in the 1930's that she was murdered. (a). From 'Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,' it is stated that Adolph Hitler and his young niece Geli had a huge fight the night before she died; (b). While the coroner found Geli had 'committed suicide,' the 'bullet had gone through her chest below the left shoulder and penetrated the heart.'

Think about positioning a weapon in that posture and pulling the trigger ,,,,

Finally, Heiden reported that Hitler's landlord's son found a letter written by Adolph to Geli, waxing on at length about his secret sexual desires. He, too, was found murdered.

199 posted on 02/18/2002 7:09:42 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Texas Eagle
If Judge Moore were serving in nearly any other state than AL, he would be either impeached, recalled, or ridden out of the state on a rail. People in America loathe Judge Moore and his judicial decisions. As Pat Buchanan warned in 1992, American has crossed into its post-Christian era. They can no longer tolerate truth. God Bless Judge Moore. Sometimes I fear for his safety.
200 posted on 02/18/2002 7:12:27 PM PST by Theodore R.
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