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Low blows for higher education: Troubled by comments from Ithaca College faculty member
Ithaca Journal ^ | Tuesday, February 5, 2002 | By Brandon Crocker

Posted on 02/05/2002 4:22:55 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

Edited on 05/07/2004 8:00:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: general_re
Oh, this is the worst rationalization of all. There's a liberal bias, the author says, but hey, that's just the natural order of things.

This is an old liberal tactic. It asserts their position as being some kind of self-evident truth, and agreement with it a litmus test of rationality. The term for it is dogma, and it has no place in the free debate and exchange of ideas because it's purpose is to prevent it. Unfortunately it seems to be gaining in popularity on both ends of the political spectrum.

101 posted on 07/01/2002 6:25:57 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: MarkWar
This "arrogance" argument has been around since 9/12. It's amazingly pervasive and it's amazingly bogus. How can such educated media types continue to put this crap forward? Just how irresponsible can the media be?

I agree with you here, this "arrogance" argument is complete crapola. I like your analogy of Bill Gates, and NO they wouldn't tolerate the murder under these circumstances. But these same leftists who would decry a murder in that situation, somehow can justify acts of violence by someone or some group they see as an "oppressed minority". It's always been my experience that behind EVERY leftist is an ELETIST. Behavior they wouldn't tolerate from a group of white people , they'll justify from anyone else because in the liberal mind, "They just can't help themselves, so we can't expect them to follow the norms of civilized behavior." This is why they're liberals, they see themselves as superior, and it's their job to lift others out of the pathetic state they're in.

As an aside, IMO, this is why they have such a special hatred for someone like Clarence Thomas. He represents the minority who DOESN'T NEED liberalism to boost him up.

102 posted on 07/01/2002 6:56:32 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: tacticalogic
Sure. It's a close cousin of the old rhetorical gimmick where I say x, y, and z, and proclaim that no reasonable person could possibly disagree with x, y, and z. Oh, you disagree? You must be unreasonable ;)

It's older than the hills - you'd have heard the same thing in the Roman Senate, and in ancient Greece. It's still amazing how many people can't manage to see through it, though.

103 posted on 07/01/2002 7:15:09 AM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
It's older than the hills - you'd have heard the same thing in the Roman Senate, and in ancient Greece. It's still amazing how many people can't manage to see through it, though.

Or come up with their own convoluted version of it and imagine they have presented the perfect, irrefutable proof that they are right.

104 posted on 07/01/2002 7:31:03 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: YankeeReb
these same leftists who would decry a murder in that situation, somehow can justify acts of violence by someone or some group they see as an "oppressed minority". It's always been my experience that behind EVERY leftist is an ELETIST. Behavior they wouldn't tolerate from a group of white people , they'll justify from anyone else because in the liberal mind, "They just can't help themselves, so we can't expect them to follow the norms of civilized behavior." This is why they're liberals, they see themselves as superior, and it's their job to lift others out of the pathetic state they're in.

A similar point was made in the latest issue of ISIS, the e-zine for what liberals call Ithaca's "fascist underground":

That childish demand of saying "Sorry" and abolishing bad behavior has become derigueur in our society. And even if the perpetrator of nastiness does not say it themself, there is a wide coalition of people who are ready to jump in and apologize for them. For instance.... Fly a plane or two into the World Trade buildings? Well, I'm sure they had a good reason. Why, America must have done something to goad them into it. After all, we are the world's big bully.

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105 posted on 07/01/2002 7:41:06 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: tacticalogic
Ah, nice catch - that's exactly what the professor has done, here, isn't it? Put a horsesh*t neo-Darwinian spin on it, and "explain" why there are no conservatives in academia. Good call..
106 posted on 07/01/2002 7:47:35 AM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
Of course, it goes without saying that the only "marketplace" these ideas can survive in is the rarified one of academia, where no alternative is allowed.
107 posted on 07/01/2002 7:53:01 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Hey, it's a foregone conclusion that the liberal perspective is the correct one, right? So why bother with debate and discussion - I'm sure they look on it as being akin to debating Nazis or some such.

Besides, when there's an alternative, it defeats the purpose of having a captive audience in the first place ;)

108 posted on 07/01/2002 8:04:01 AM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
Ah, nice catch - that's exactly what the professor has done, here, isn't it? Put a horsesh*t neo-Darwinian spin on it, and "explain" why there are no conservatives in academia. Good call..

After you reduce it all, it comes down to "College professors are smart people, and smart people are liberals."

109 posted on 07/01/2002 8:07:58 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: mutchdutch
SUPPORT A CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY.
110 posted on 07/01/2002 8:14:58 AM PDT by Windsong
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
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111 posted on 07/01/2002 8:29:39 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
A small price to pay to save the rest of Upstate NY ;-)

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112 posted on 07/01/2002 8:42:25 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"In this case, professor of politics, Asma Barlas, proclaimed that people like Osama bin Laden, as well as all sorts of "moderates" hate America because America's foreign policy since World War II has been one that "seeks control over the entire world by any means necessary." Furthermore, the professor says, "people everywhere are sick and tired" of our "political economy based on their systematic abuse, exploitation, expropriation, and degradation."

Higher education my hiney!. What a case of verbal diarrhea. I love how liberals can spew it out.
113 posted on 07/03/2002 1:18:02 PM PDT by ottersnot
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Next time please add

"... led the cops on a high speed chase through a residential neighborhood ..."

I've been there. If you live in suburbia, just look out your front door and imagine someone going by at 90 mph. He was driving 3X the speed limit where he was.

114 posted on 07/03/2002 7:09:23 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: NCLou
I guess when I say I am disturbed by it, I don't mean the particular case, or the particular "victim" Rodney King, but more the issue itself. There was a time when my immediate reaction to anything of that nature was a knee-jerk "He had it coming." Rodney King may indeed have had it coming, and those officers may have been innocent of wrong doing (I do think their double jeopardy rights were clearly violated). But after so many instances of out-of-control local and federal law enforcement, my initial reation is to be disturbed by it.

Hear, hear! My opinion is very similar.

115 posted on 07/03/2002 9:06:52 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Rodney King is far from the poster boy for the Libertarian party

How many times has he been arrested for beating his wife? Maybe the media can do where are they now on all the charaters in the Rodney King play and post rial activities.

One thing that sticks in my mind is the Korean Shop keepers on the roofs of their stores fully armed to deter the post trial looting.

116 posted on 07/04/2002 4:28:47 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
A few years ago, a columnist recalled that murder and postulated that the family (which was upper middle class) had more or less engaged in an arrogant display of their wealth at some point prior to that, and they were robbed and murdered as a result thereof.

Remember the woman jogger who was gang-raped and nearly murdered by a gang of "youths" who were "wilding" in Central Park back in the mid 80s?" I remember those who came forward later saying, "well, what do you expect, she was wearing those expensive running shoes and these poor, underprivileged youth were lashing out against her display of wealth." Or words to that effect.

Yes, there is definitely brainwashing of the variety: "the nail that sticks up highest gets knocked down" (a quote that Communist Chinese are very familiar with) among the radical class-warfare advocates in our society. And most of them have tenure.

117 posted on 07/05/2002 5:38:53 AM PDT by Anamensis
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Someone needs to wake up the students so that they are not taken in by these losers.
118 posted on 07/05/2002 6:25:55 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
There must be a nice college in, say, Saudi Arabia or Iran
which could make good use of such a "professor." Of course, the plumbing facilities may not be as hygienic as they generally are in Ithaca.
119 posted on 07/05/2002 4:01:17 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
future "journalists" admonish us that the Sept. 11 attacks were "not unwarranted" given our "arrogance" in dealing with the rest of the world.

By the lefties own logic their execution would be warranted since who can be more arrogant than a lefty professor or student? The fools know not what they say. ;-)
120 posted on 07/06/2002 3:02:51 PM PDT by cgbg
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