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1 posted on 02/01/2002 2:41:48 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
That's more money GONE than Bush's TAX CUT!
2 posted on 02/01/2002 2:45:09 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Uncle Bill
Where has Vince Gonzales, CBS News, been for the last eight years?
3 posted on 02/01/2002 2:51:17 PM PST by kcvl
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To: OKCSubmariner; Askel5; Donald Stone
Government credit cards: 3.1 million and growing along with abuses
"AP reported last month that 1.8 million credit cards used by Pentagon employees wracked up nearly $9 billion in debt in 2000. One bank alone was forced to write off $58 million in fraudulent or abusive purchases by military personnel."

Courting the Presidential Con
"Felonies? Yes, felonies. Trillions are missing from federal agencies. That's right, gone. Poof! As in, "Nowhere to be found." People familiar with government accounts have charged off the record that in 1996 a concerted and intentional effort began with the support of the Office of Management and Budget and Treasury to strip agencies of honest officials and internal financial controls."

GAO Reports Allege Pentagon Fraud - Conservartive News Service
"The Pentagon's bookkeeping "is the taxpayers' worst nightmare, but it's an embezzler's dream come true,"

Pentagon Defied Laws and Misused Funds, Panel Reports
"Representative Jerry Lewis, Republican of California and chairman of the committee's defense spending panel, said the Pentagon's actions showed its belief "that it can even move money to a program Congress has closed down, maybe presuming, 'Oh, well, nobody will know.' "

4 posted on 02/01/2002 2:53:24 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Waste? Yeah, how P.C. I think a merchant term is more appropriate - "shrinkage"
5 posted on 02/01/2002 2:59:41 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Uncle Bill
I always knew that we pay way too much in taxes even with what the Government says and that some people were stealing it.
6 posted on 02/01/2002 3:01:06 PM PST by weikel
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To: Uncle Bill
not says I meant spends.
7 posted on 02/01/2002 3:01:28 PM PST by weikel
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To: Uncle Bill
I wonder how much the civilian parts steal given that the military is more honest in most respects.
8 posted on 02/01/2002 3:02:44 PM PST by weikel
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To: Uncle Bill,seattlesue,Benighted
You know.....rather than trying to find the wasteful, corrupted, utterly useless department of our government, it would be a hell of a lot easier to try to produce 1!!!

Everytime you turn around, there's another GAO report showing just how egregious these bureaucrats are at not meeting their own goals!

9 posted on 02/01/2002 3:04:20 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Uncle Bill
STEALING is not "waste" --- check Cohen's accounts first.
10 posted on 02/01/2002 3:06:52 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Uncle Bill
The WAR ON WASTE.....the one war no politician or bureaucrat will ever WAGE!
13 posted on 02/01/2002 3:09:23 PM PST by Rowdee
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Does anybody seriously think that the Clinton's only took furniture and art work on their way out?

What about all those underlings with average paying jobs having to hire high priced Attorneys to help them escape Clinton culpability?

Sure do hope we don't turn to the General Accounting Office with David (Arthur Anderson) Walker tasked to try and find the money.

Can everybody spell Offshore Accounts?

14 posted on 02/01/2002 3:14:56 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Uncle Bill
bumping for later reading
17 posted on 02/01/2002 3:16:22 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Uncle Bill
Wonder when Enron got those contracts. Wonder why whistle blowers who are supervising the payout of MY money, of YOUR money and eveyone else's are PUNISHED???? This makes me so damn mad. I want a full out investigation, I want all WHISTLEBLOWERS PROMOTED and I want heads to roll. Even if those heads are retired now. 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS? Infuriating.
18 posted on 02/01/2002 3:22:08 PM PST by Republic
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To: Uncle Bill
That 2.3 trillion dollars is NOT missing. It's in Hillary Clinton's campaign account in the Bahamas.
20 posted on 02/01/2002 3:28:05 PM PST by Magician
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To: Uncle Bill
I'm in the military and my unit spends many millions of dollars a year. Our biggest problem is that we no longer have the people to manually track items and our automated systems don't talk to each other (which means that they aren't automated). Consequently, when a person doesn't keep the proper records it isn't discovered for a while, then it is usually too late to track where it went. I cannot tell you the frustration of keeping paper records and reentering information because our IT systems are clumsy and don't talk to each other.

If you really want to discover waste, look at what is purchased. Don't look for $400 hammers and $1500 coffee makers; those are actually valid purchases (the $400 hammer is a special non-ferrous tool for bomb disposal and the coffee maker is a no-spill for long distance planes (the airlines actually were spending more for the same thing).). Instead, look at the prices for things like electronic parts and repair parts for our machines. This is because the buyer doesn’t know the true value of the item and doesn’t realize the govt is being overcharged.

22 posted on 02/01/2002 3:35:35 PM PST by fini
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>>"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions"

Could that be the secret CIA budget. It comes from somewhere.

26 posted on 02/01/2002 4:02:19 PM PST by The Raven
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To: Uncle Bill
This has been a festering issue for a decade, maybe longer. I am very impressed that Rumsfeld, even in the midst of the ongoing conflicts, is willing to raise the issue and attempt to solve it.

Good luck to him. Bureaucrats can be tougher fighters than the Taliban.

27 posted on 02/01/2002 4:04:19 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Uncle Bill
This is disgusting and demoralizing.

Complete and total looting and pillaging of Washington by the Clintoons and their appointees and allies from 1992-2000.

30 posted on 02/01/2002 4:07:28 PM PST by eleni121
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To: Uncle Bill
There musta been one hellava party at the 'ol Clinton White House, eh?
It's cheeper to bomb sand, and you can put the left over savings in an account you can use later, say, for an upcomming election or something?
31 posted on 02/01/2002 4:09:02 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Uncle Bill
Remember the NEA audits?
They were in such a shamble, the audit could not be completed.
They found mansions, second houses, new sports cars, vacation resorts, all bought by the NEA bigshots courtesy of the American taxpayer.
It got a little press, but very little. After all, it's important not to make a big deal out of it "for the sake of the children."
34 posted on 02/01/2002 4:13:12 PM PST by concerned about politics
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