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CHILD SUPPORT As Theft (Disguised Alimony): The Feminist Idea Of Independence Is She Takes His Money
World Net Daily ^ | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 01/20/2002 12:47:53 PM PST by DNA Rules

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1 posted on 01/20/2002 12:47:54 PM PST by DNA Rules
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To: DNA Rules
But while he easily fought Chrysler's then-Chairman Lee Iaccoca, Kerkorian met his match in the scheming Bonder. He refused her constant begging for marriage so, in 1997, . In a move to legitimize the child's birth, they married on the condition that she waive all spousal support and divorce a month later.

Excuse me, she didn't get pregnant by herself. He did carry on a decade long affair with the woman. He could have broken up with her if she was scheming. It takes two to tangle. No 74 year old billionaire takes up with a 26 year old hottie because he thinks she is a great homemaker and no 26 year old hooks up with a 74 year old billionaire because they both like The BackStreet Boys.

2 posted on 01/20/2002 12:57:55 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: DNA Rules
At least the guys in the article can afford it. How about the poor stiff who's wife leaves him through no fault of his own? If he's got two kids, he'll be lucky to see them more than four or five days a month. And if he brings home $3000 a month, he's going to pay at least half of that in child support while his ex continues working at her $40000 a year job.
3 posted on 01/20/2002 1:00:23 PM PST by buccaneer81
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To: DNA Rules
My ex-wife has bled me for 18 years. She has refused to work, just collect any kind of check that is available to her. 5 kids by 3 fathers(I was the first). She gets free rent, food stamps, free medical, child support and whatever else the govt hands out. OH YEAH, she always has a brand new car.(for the kids)

Come May 1st, my son will be 18 and she can kiss my a$$.

If it sounds like I'm bitter, well I'm past that stage now(LOL)!!

4 posted on 01/20/2002 1:00:30 PM PST by n.y.muggs
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To: DNA Rules
The Feminist Idea Of Independence

They can take it all, but in the end they still remain frustrated, for as a phoenix we rise with our manhood intact once again to rebuild our lives, and that my friend is a mouthful.

5 posted on 01/20/2002 1:02:31 PM PST by TightSqueeze
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"...for as a phoenix we rise with our manhood intact once again to rebuild our lives, and that my friend is a mouthful.

Not all of us. Some family courts are prone to impose support orders not based on what a man earns, but on what the court thinks he should earn. Anyone who thinks the U.S. has done away with debtors prison should think again. This just might be a contributing factor in the 400% disparity between male and female suicide.

6 posted on 01/20/2002 1:15:50 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: DNA Rules
high-class prostitution act

Highly PAID prostitution maybe. There's no CLASS to it!

7 posted on 01/20/2002 1:21:59 PM PST by IronJack
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To: buccaneer81
Yep. THAT'S the real crime here. Women now have the same earning power as men, yet it is automatically assumed that the woman will get custody in a divorce, and that the man has to pay for the difference.

To stop this outrage, men need to be willing to shoulder the responsibility for their children. Demand that your attorney seek at least joint custody. Then, in most states, the only child support you can be assessed is an equitable division of the child's costs based on income.

As to alimony, that's simply the same fee hookers are paid, with the government acting as pimp.

8 posted on 01/20/2002 1:26:44 PM PST by IronJack
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To: n.y.muggs
OH YEAH, she always has a brand new car.(for the kids)

Wow... in Texas you can't have better than a 4yr old vehicle... or they'll rip all assistance; including the food stamps. I thought it was national regulation? Guess not.

9 posted on 01/20/2002 1:42:37 PM PST by LaineyDee
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To: IronJack
As to alimony, that's simply the same fee hookers are paid, with the government acting as pimp.

Except you are paying them NOT to perform.(just like it was before the divorce:) )

10 posted on 01/20/2002 1:45:32 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: LaineyDee
I thought it was national regulation?

Common sense tends to be confined to states like Texas (and Texas is the ONLY state that can claim to be "like Texas")

13 posted on 01/20/2002 1:49:22 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: n.y.muggs
Come May 1st, my son will be 18 and she can kiss my a$$.

Holy cow! For your sake I wish it were May 1st today!!

14 posted on 01/20/2002 1:54:24 PM PST by Anamensis
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To: xm177e2
Both parents should be required to support their child until he or she turns 18. On the other hand there is no reason in the world men should be required to pay women alimony when men wouldn't consider mooching off women and society in such a manner. Perhaps this female dependence on men relates to women's support for government and liberalism. After all why complain when Hubby's around to take care of you whether he's a man or the government. Turns out the femininazis far from emanicipating women from subordination to men, merely suceeded in exchanging it for another form of it subordination to government. What one can't say is there's been harmony between the sexes nor have women's lives materially improved as a result of this Faustian Bargain. Don't expect the feminazis to confess though and let men off the hook for they're too good a cash cow to easily relinquish.
15 posted on 01/20/2002 2:01:07 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: buccaneer81
And if he brings home $3000 a month, he's going to pay at least half of that in child support while his ex continues working at her $40000 a year job.

Sue for full custody. If you don't think you can handle that, sue for joint custody (50%/50%).

Nobody pays anybody anything. You make an agreement of how to split major expenses such as medical, dental, orthadontia, and school clothes, supplies, and tuition. There is an agreement about who declares the child on their income tax. Sometimes this means you declare the child in alternate years. Of course you have to live near your ex souse -- probably in the same school district for this to work. And you have to remain on civil terms.

16 posted on 01/20/2002 2:03:10 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Vinnie
The FEE is the same. The service is generally not.
17 posted on 01/20/2002 2:05:42 PM PST by IronJack
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To: n.y.muggs
Heh... I have an ex-boyfriend who has an ex-girlfriend like your ex-wife. She had five kids by as many fathers and an unknown number of abortions. Every time I heard she was pregnant, I asked, well, who's the father? The answer was always: She doesn't know.

She could go through men like Kleenex, as long as her looks held out, though: She was short and busty, with long blonde hair and blue eyes which got brighter when she was screaming, which was often. She was extremely sexually aggressive with men. She was also a druggie, and she thought the world owed her a living.

A week after I got involved with the guy, she was trying to get ME to quit school and support her @ss through college... never mind that she had never so much as graduated from high school, but SHE was going to Stanford, whereas Cal State University was good enough for ME. Really amazing. Her favorite saying is, "You're ruining my life!"

Guys apparently thought they had found sexual nirvana, until they finally figured out how crazy and manipulative she was... or until she became pregnant. She was also very careless with the birth control, and apparently lots of men just don't ask about stuff like that. I know several men who got involved with her; none were ever the same afterwards--and not in a good way, I might add.

She was THE major factor in why I dumped that poor guy... I had no problems with the kid of hers he was raising, but I couldn't see putting up with HER until the kid turned 18. BTW, I'm still friends with the guy and the kid. He eventually married, I went to his wedding, and the ex was a thorn in the wife's side as well.

You guys who have problems with women like that--I have a lot of sympathy for you; but it also seems that men really go for women like that, at least until they know better. Women like that seem to be very successful with men. I don't know what is so great about women like that, but they never have any problem getting more suckers--er, I mean men...

18 posted on 01/20/2002 2:06:18 PM PST by pbmaltzman
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It is also a way to dissolve one of the core bonds that defines our culture: the family. If women can't easily (and profitably) escape from marriage, the family unit tends to be stronger. Give women an easy exit -- and punish men in the process -- and you erode the culture from within. It's the standard dialectic, the wedge the Left has used to split cultures for years.
19 posted on 01/20/2002 2:08:04 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Vinnie
"Alimony. Ain't that when you pays a woman not to live with you?"- John Wayne's butler in "McLintock!"
20 posted on 01/20/2002 2:10:26 PM PST by Long Cut
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