CHILD SUPPORT As Theft (Disguised Alimony): The Feminist Idea Of Independence Is She Takes His Money

World Net Daily ^ | Debbie Schlussel

[buccaneer81]

Of course you have to live near your ex souse -- probably in the same school district for this to work. And you have to remain on civil terms.

I have several friends who have come to this arrangement. The difference between their situations and mine? In their divorces both parties were mature enough to put the child first. My wife failed Maturity 101.

[FITZ]

Like they say --- a fool and his money are easily parted. If these very wealthy men really thought the women loved them for themselves and not for their money, they got to learn the hard way. Anyone who meets a stripper like Anna Nicole Smith and brings her home deserves losing his money to her.

[GussiedUp]

Come May 1st, my son will be 18 and she can kiss my a$$.

Depends...in some places if your son goes to college, she can use that to milk you until he's 21

[FITZ]

I can see what you suggest if the woman does maintain her career ---but what about those cases where the woman --by mutual agreement gives up a career to raise kids and the man changes his mind about being married when she's in her 40's. I've seen that happen too ---and the man figured the ex-wife should end up with nothing at all. I saw that with my sister-in-law, the husband found someone else and tried to keep the house and the kids because she couldn't afford anything because she had no job or resume. He wanted a stay-at-home wife before that point though.

[GussiedUp]

She was also very careless with the birth control, and apparently lots of men just don't ask about stuff like that

Yep that right there stops me from feeling TOOO sorry for men - at least the single ones - once the blood drops from the head on their shoulders, all of 'em - doctors to high school dropouts, tend to get stupid about some very important facts like BIRTH CONTROL. I know if *I* were the one going to be stuck paying some broodmare for 18 years I'd darn sure think twice about unzipping.

[weikel]

Certainly the way myparents divorced worked out. I will never get married now unless Im rich and have a prenup.

[roballen]

sounds exactly like what happened to me. Maybe they're sisters.

[weikel]

My fathergets milked onmy sister until she is 23 here in Taxachussetts.

[FITZ]

She had five kids by as many fathers and an unknown number of abortions.

Sounds like she killed the kids from the fathers who couldn't support them and kept them if there was money in it for herself.

[holly]

Some family courts are prone to impose support orders not based on what a man earns, but on what the court thinks he should earn.

Yep I went through that one. And they will lock you up for not paying child support (which is interesting since how are you going to pay child support in prison). However the reverse is not true. Years later when I got full custody of the children, the ex paid not a dime of child support even though she was ordered to do so.

[FITZ]

You should stand on a street corner in torn dirty clothes begging for money and just marry the ones you can get that way. Then you'll know they were attracted to something besides your money.

[weikel]

I ain't rich yet and I don't really care if they are attracted to my money or not so long as I can get a prenup and find a state where prenups are honored.

[conservative cat]

And if he brings home $3000 a month, he's going to pay at least half of that in child support while his ex continues working at her $40000 a year job

Well, as a female living in Washington state, it's the opposite. They have charts that set out the prescribed amount of child support based on total combined income, then they give each person a percent they are responsible for- based on their percent of that income. It makes it more fair for the husband when the woman works and makes good money, but it rewards women who don't take initiative to support themselves.

For instance, my brother in-law pays his ex-wife double what my husband would pay me, although they make close to the same amount- all because I stay employed.

[GhostofWCooper]

"Alimony. Ain't that when you pays a woman not to live with you?"

My brother once said, " You don't pay hookers for the party, you pay 'em to leave afterwards!"
Kind of like ex-wives, we pay them to leave us alone...

BTW, while I was standing around in a crowd of soon-to-be-single guys at the courthouse, I asked if any of them had filed for the divorce.
They all said the wife did it.

[weikel]

I agree for instance there is NO incentive under Taxachussetts law for parents to act responsibly ifmy father had beat the s*** outta my mother every night itwould have no effecton the divorce settlement. It also would have no affect if either one of them came home drunk every night etc etc.

[IronJack]

If she "gave up" her career voluntarily, why is he responsible for her upkeep after they're divorced? She spent 20 years schlepping around the house while he paid for everything and she thinks he's ripping HER off??? Why should any person have to pay for the lifestyle of another? Why should I buy my ex-wife a house, a car, new clothes, trips to the casino, or anything else? Why does a man's "responsibility" to his ex extend beyond the marriage contract itself?

Mind you, we're not talking about paying for a child here. We're just talking about some women who think they can retire on the extorted largesse of some boob who was stupid enough to marry them. If they want out, let them out. But they take half the bills and half the assets. Nothing more.

In fact, this paternalism (ironic, isn't it?) does women a disservice. If their "independence" from men comes at the price of dependence on the government, they've just traded one master for another. The truly FREE woman is one can stand on her own, without a husband OR a handout. She is also the woman who can then decide if she wants to be married at all, and under what conditions, instead of being forced into a dysfunctional relationship for economic (or biological) reasons.

[ClancyJ]

So, when a man divorces or is divorced, his children are no longer his children? No longer should they look to a father for support? Since when does fatherhood end with divorce?

So easy to find fault with an ex-wife when it comes to money going out of their pockets. All of a sudden all that money goes to the wife not the children.

IMHO a real man would demand to help support his children - they are his no matter what an ex does or does not do. They need him no matter what an ex does or does not do. He should be there for them no matter what an ex does or does not do.

How great to come to the end of your life and remember that you were a great father UNTIL the divorce - then the children suddenly were supported, comforted and raised by others, or not.

[weikel]

I don't even think they should get half the bills and assets in most cases ussually they are not responsible for that much of the income.

[Rebelbase]

There is a mindset in the female community that affects many with this "child support is a substitute for alimony" belief.

My ex was getting close to $1000/out of me for child support, partially due to my having an idiot for my first attorney. I faithfully paid to keep things smooth even when it got to the point where the kids were about 50/50 at each house (live near each other).

Long story short, she did something stupid that put herself in a postion where I had to pay her only 1/10 of the original amount.

Hell hath no fury like a woman who loses her child support. She spent thousands trying to get me to pay her more and ended up only getting an additional $40/mo.