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Evidence of ancient city found in depths off Cuba (best article yet)
Toronto Globa and Mail ^ | 12/7/01 | MICHAEL POSNER

Posted on 12/12/2001 10:37:07 PM PST by spycatcher

A team of Canadian and Cuban researchers have discovered the remains of what may be a 6,000-year-old city submerged in deep ocean waters off the western coast of Cuba.

Using sophisticated sonar and videotape equipment, offshore engineer Paulina Zelitsky, her husband, Paul Weinzweig, and her son, Ernesto Tapanes, have found megaliths "of a kind you'd find at Stonehenge or Easter Island," Mr. Weinzweig said in an interview yesterday.

"Some structures within the complex may be as long as 400 metres wide and as high as 40 metres," he said. "Some are sitting on top of each other. They show very distinct shapes and symmetrical designs of a non-natural kind. We've shown them to scientists in Cuba, the U.S. and elsewhere, and nobody has suggested they are natural."

Moreover, an anthropologist affiliated with the Cuban Academy of Sciences has said that still photos taken from the videotape clearly show "symbols and inscriptions," Mr. Weinzweig said. It is not yet known in what language the inscriptions are written.

The sonar images, he added, bear a remarkable resemblance to the pyramidal design of Mayan and Aztec temples in Mexico.

Mr. Weinzweig said it is too early to draw firm conclusions from the evidence collected so far. The research team plans another foray to the site -- off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on Cuba's western tip -- next month. Next summer, it hopes to return again, this time with the first deep-water mobile excavator, equipped with functions needed for on-site archeological evaluation, including the ability to blow sand off stone.

Geologists have recently hypothesized that a land bridge once connected Cuba to Mexico's Yucatan peninsula. And portions of the Cuban island are believed to have been submerged in the sea on three separate occasions in the distant past.

The structures are on a plateau that forms the bottom of what is thought to be a mud volcano, 650 to 700 metres beneath the surface of the ocean and along what is clearly a geological fault line. "It's well known that ancient civilizations liked to build at the base of volcanoes, because the land is fertile. So that's suggestive," Mr. Weinzweig said.

One tantalizing possibility, entirely speculative for now, is that if the legendary sunken continent of Atlantis is ever proven to have existed, these structures may have been submerged during the same cataclysm.

Mr. Weinzweig simply says that more information is needed. "We'd prefer to stay away from that subject. This is something of great potential scientific interest, but it must involve serious authorities on ancient civilizations."

The precise age of the underwater site is also unknown, although Cuban archeologists in 1966 excavated a land-based megalithic structure on the western coast, close to the new underwater discovery, said to date from 4000 BC. "Based on that and other geological information, we're speculating that these are 6,000 years old," he explained. "It's not exact, but they're very ancient."

If that dating estimate proves accurate, it would mean that an ancient civilization had designed and erected these vast stone structures in the Americas only 500 years after human settlements first became organized in cities and states.

They would also have been built long before the wheel was invented in Sumeria (3500 BC), or the sundial in Egypt (3000 BC). The three pyramids on Egypt's Giza plateau are thought to have been constructed between 2900 and 2200 BC.

The couple's Havana-based company, Advanced Digital Communications, discovered the site in July of 2000, using side-scan sonar equipment to view what resembled an underwater city, complete with roads, buildings and pyramids.

The team returned this past summer with a 1.3-tonne, unmanned Remotely Operated Vehicle, controlled from the mother ship via fibre-optic cable. Its cameras confirmed the earlier findings, showing vast granite-like blocks, between two and five metres in length, that were cut in perpendicular and circular designs.

But because of technical problems, Mr. Weinzweig said, "we were only able to survey the perimeter of the site. Based on initial explorations, we think it's much larger than even our sonar projections show. It may extend for several kilometres."

In addition to the archeological site, ADC has been exploring what Mr. Weinzweig calls "the richest underwater cemetery in the world" for sunken Spanish galleons. Hundreds of treasure-bearing ships are said to lie around the island, several hundred to several thousand metres deep.

Last year, off Havana Bay, it found the remains of USS Maine, the battleship that blew up in 1898. That incident, never entirely explained, killed 260 sailors and precipitated the Spanish-American War.


TOPICS: Canada; Cuba; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: archaeology; atlantis; canada; catastrophism; clovis; cuba; flood; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; paulinazelitsky; paulinazelitzky; preclovis; russia; settegast; velikovsky; vikings
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To: jrewingjr
Thanks. Managed to catch Linda on Art Bell last night.
61 posted on 12/29/2001 6:26:47 AM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: spycatcher
BTTT
62 posted on 12/29/2001 6:30:57 AM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: blam
Here is the url of the topography map mentioned in post #60.

ftp://ftp.ngdc.noaa.gov/GLOBE_DEM/pictures/GLOBALeb3colshade.jpg

63 posted on 12/29/2001 6:38:47 AM PST by blam
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To: medved
huh?
64 posted on 12/29/2001 6:56:13 AM PST by HapHaszard
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To: spycatcher
And evidence of brothels and casinos as developed by neolithic ancestors of Meyer Lansky....
65 posted on 12/29/2001 7:14:21 AM PST by willyboyishere
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To: blam
Very plausible. I believe there's ruins of a city just north of the Nile Delta underwater also.

A side note: A big cave complex has been found in my area here in Illinois originally named Burrows cave, but Burrows says his cave isn't the same but is nearby. Ancient Indian (not American Indian, India Indian!) artifacts from 5000 BC, I believe, have been found in it. The newest edition of "Ancient American" magazine has some of the details. I grew up in the Embarras River valley which is the valley where the cave is. I don't know if it's the same part of the valley, the cave's exact location is still being kept secret for fear of looting.

66 posted on 12/29/2001 9:29:39 AM PST by #3Fan
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" The newest edition of "Ancient American" magazine has some of the details."

Yup. I saw that in my copy but haven't read it yet.

67 posted on 12/29/2001 10:04:28 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
I may have to do some "mushroom hunting" next spring. :^)
68 posted on 12/29/2001 11:44:08 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: blam
Can't wait to see more photos and video. Looks like buildings
69 posted on 12/29/2001 8:39:33 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
I read a letter written to Ancient American Magazine by Andrew Collins that stated that he had reviewed the video and did not see any of the 'writings' (glyphs?) claimed by Paulina Zelitsky. Quote Andrew Collins, "More needs to be done before such bold statements can be made on the nature of these blocks, which are no way confirmed as artificially constructed. This is merely a matter of interpretation at this stage."
70 posted on 12/30/2001 7:02:25 AM PST by blam
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To: spycatcher
were there any 58 chevy's there?BWAHAHA
71 posted on 12/30/2001 7:05:30 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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72 posted on 12/30/2001 8:32:30 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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73 posted on 12/30/2001 8:57:36 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: gieriscm
bump
74 posted on 01/02/2002 7:05:11 AM PST by BCR #226
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To: spycatcher; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs
Just adding this to the GGG homepage, not sending a general distribution.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
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75 posted on 07/21/2004 11:56:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: spycatcher

Bump


76 posted on 07/21/2004 12:08:18 PM PDT by Darnright
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77 posted on 08/10/2005 10:34:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: spycatcher

Bump for later study.


78 posted on 08/10/2005 10:52:27 PM PDT by soundbits
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why dont you use American measurement so we Americans can understand. i don't like metric.
79 posted on 04/06/2007 12:26:41 PM PDT by klm82006
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