More Daisy Cutters, Please

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[hawaiian]

As devastating as these Daisy Cutters seem to be, why aren't we using more of them? I think we should intimidate the hell out of these losers by dropping 4 of them in a row. Why not?

[Nogbad]

Rumsfield says they are in short supply.

(Thanks to Clinton)

[hawaiian]

Rumsfield says they are in short supply.

You're kidding me! How short? How much do they cost, and how long do they take to make? Anyone?

[Heisenburger]

Rumsfield says they are in short supply.

Fortunately we have thousands of 25 megaton nuclear warheads we're just dying to put to use.

[Heisenburger]

How much do they cost, and how long do they take to make?

I don't know how long they take to build, but if I remember correctly, they cost around $25,000.

[Two Thirds Vote Aye]

I was wondering the same thing myself. It turns out, Secretary Rumsfield addressed this in yesterday's Defense Department Briefing. I don't remember the quote exactly, but he said we had a very limited supply of them, and we use them very judiciously.

I would say that the adolescent that inhabited the Oval Office for the 8 years before President Bush might be the reason why we don't have a huge warehouse full of them. They are relatively inexpensive at ~$27,000 apiece.

[brat]

I just love Daisies! LOL

[hawaiian]

$27,000 apiece

Is that it? Sheesh. Order up a dozen for tomorrow!

[blaze]

"I'll be your daisy"..Doc Holliday from Tombstone

[Two Thirds Vote Aye]

I had recorded yesterday's briefing and am replaying it. I just got to the part where Secretary Rumsfeld was asked about the daisy cutter dropped on Tora Bora. The secretary said, "there are not a lot of those. They don't use them frivously."

This was followed by the GREAT "desired effect/dead al-Qaeda" banter from General Meyers, which you may have heard about here on FR.

[DB]

I'd bet they're in full production now...

They don't look like they take long to make.

[zarf]

The Daisy's are not exactly discriminating weapons. They're great when used in areas that condusive to getting the result we want. Otherwise, you're killing dozens of innocent bystanders to kill a few of fleas.

[BrooklynGOP]

Fortunately we have thousands of 25 megaton nuclear warheads we're just dying to put to use.

Yea. Since Bush promised Putin to cut our nuclear arsenal, we should start now by dropping a nice amount on Iraq, Syria, Iran and Sudan.

[beekeeper]

Part of the Clinton military cutbacks.

[backhoe]

Here's a little of what I found about our nuclear aresenal:

The W88 Warhead
... In the fall of 1990 Congress directed that a study be done on W-88 safety due to
the use on non-insensitive high explosive. In December the study committee ...

Panel of Experts.W-88
Panel of Experts -- W-88. With respect to this second widely reported general and
specific allegation (p90) in the Cox Report of the "theft of design ...

C-SPAN: Report on Chinese Espionage
... warhead in the US intercontinental ballistic missile arsenal. Together, these include
the W-88 Trident D-5 thermonuclear warhead, and the W-56 Minuteman II ...

Trident II (USA) - D-5 - USNI Military Database
... a hard target kill capability. It is estimated that a D-5 W88 warhead has an 88%
probability of kill against a target hardened to 7,200 psi (506 kg/sq. cm). ...

Russia May Sell Nuke Subs to China [Free Republic]
... per warhead. The USA's W88 warhead carried by the Ohio class (D5 warhead - 2nd gen
Ohio's) ICBM submarines have a nominal yield of 475 kilotons ... 24 missiles ...

[Caipirabob]

I think there are other issues at play here such as the number of special ops forces, scouts and other reconnassance in the area in and around the Taliban. They may not have open lines of communication with everyone in potential target areas during fire or flight with the Taliban. A daisy-cutter would take out EVERYONE in the vicinity and I think they're hestitant to use one unless they can confirm all our guys and friends are clear.

[VMI70]

They don't look like they take long to make.

You are correct. In and of themselves, it is not a high tech weapon, making production fairly easy. It is the delivery method that is comparatively complex, especially if they are trying to be precise.

FReegards,

[eFudd]

I wonder how far you would have to space them apart so the blast from the first one would not tear the parachute off of the second one?

Worse yet would be knocking the following plane out of the air.

[techdawg2k]

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[hawaiian]

If there were one time to use a mini-nuke, this is it.