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Racism runs wild at FR
Free Republic ^ | 12/4 | me

Posted on 12/04/2001 7:23:03 AM PST by ArcLight

JimRob can't be expected to police every thread. But the rank, appalling racism of some comments made during the discussion of the Adams Mark lawsuit really is quite beyond the pale. Your thoughts?


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To: ArcLight
Another moronic post from you.
81 posted on 12/04/2001 8:03:46 AM PST by boomop1
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To: ArcLight
Being that the thread has been pulled, I have no way of reading the article or comments. But i have seen comments below about "writst bands." I can tell you, as a former college kid who enjoyed Spring Break in various places, wrist bands are common practice at many hotels during spring break. Many are provided by and required by the travel company that you booked with and are used to identify you as their customer to make you eligible for whatever specials and events they have going on. I remember once, I got one from the hotel itself and one from the promotions company. Not an uncommon practice.

As far as comments I have seen regarding having to carry their own bags... get over it! I travel a great deal. I regularly stay in very nice, high priced hotels and the cheapest damn hotel in town. It is RARE that i have had my bags carried for me up to my room. Usually the best treatment I get is they provide me with a cart to put my stuff on and push it myself.

82 posted on 12/04/2001 8:06:02 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Humidston
It always seems un-PC to call out someone who is seen as the victim. The truth is many Blacks are racist just like any other color but often it is seen as a reaction to racism in the first place which is what makes it ok. Kind of like self-defense. I feel that if you are brave enought o call it racist then more power to you. I call out my friends all the time for their racist views but the thing is they're still my friends because they are more prejudiced than anything which I believe everyone is in some way or anoter. The difference between the two (IMO) is do you really believe the person fits those preconceived notions or do you just have the notions in your head for whatever reason?
84 posted on 12/04/2001 8:08:12 AM PST by CHELLEDC
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To: Belial
I'm not a fan myself. But when people say this, I just shake my head. People used to say the same thing about jazz and the blues 50 years ago, and now you'll pay $75 to sit in a concert hall and listen to the same music.

There is no comparison and you know it. Please find some 50 year old jazz lyrics that are comparable to the following, and tell me who’s paying $75 to listen to it today.

"Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long. . . . the white man is the devil. . . . the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I'm recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant. . . . let's go and kill some rednecks. . . . Menace Clan ain't afraid. . . . I got the .380; the homies think I'm crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill whitey all night long. . . . a nigga dumping on your white ass; f*ck this rap sh!t, nigga, I'm gonna blast. . . . I beat a white boy to the motherf*cking ground… I kill a devil right now. . . . I say kill whitey all nightey long. . . .I stabbed a f*cking Jew with a steeple. . . . I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the f*ck of it. . . . Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack 'em even quicker. . . . catch that devil slipping; blow his f*cking brains out"
--"Kill Whitey" Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, subsidiary of The EMI Group, United Kingdom.

"Devils fear this brand new shit. . . . I bleed them next time I see them. . . . I prey on these devils. . . . look what it has come to; who you gonna run to when we get to mobbing. . . . filling his body up with lead, yah; cracker in my way; slitting, slit his throat; watch his body shake; watch his body shake; that's how we do it in the motherf*cking Bay…"
"Heat-featuring Jet and Spice1"; --Paris, Unleashed, 1998, Unleashed Records, Whirling Records.

"Won't be satisfied until the devils-I see them all dead. . . . my brother is sending me more guns from down South. . . . pale face. . . . it's all about brothers rising up, wising up, sizing up our situation. . . . you be f*cking with my turf when you be f*cking with my race; now face your maker and take your last breath; the time is half-past death. . . . it's the Armageddon. . . . go into the garage; find that old camouflage. . . . cracker-shooting nightly"
--"What the F*ck"; Brand Nubian, Everything Is Everything, 1994, Elektra Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.

"Bust a Glock; devils get shot. . . . when God give the word me herd like the buffalo through the neighborhood; watch me blast. . . . I'm killing more crackers than Bosnia-Herzegovina, each and everyday. . . . don't bust until you see the whites of his eyes, the whites of his skin. . . . Louis Farrakhan . . . Bloods and CRIPS, and little old me, and we all getting ready for the enemy"
; -- "Enemy"; Ice Cube, Lethal Injection, 1993, Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.

"My own kind blind, brain-trained on the devil-level. . . . chasing down loot, Dole or Newt, who do you shoot. . . . rough stuff to the babies, spread like rabies"
--"Niggativity . . . Do I Dare Disturb the Universe"; Chuck D, Autobiography of MistaChuck, 1996, Mercury Records, PolyGram

85 posted on 12/04/2001 8:09:41 AM PST by dead
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To: ArcLight
***************"Ever wonder why few blacks would be caught dead hanging with conservatives?"****************************************

Ever wonder why conservatives don't have rap music on their boxes?

86 posted on 12/04/2001 8:09:41 AM PST by Chapita
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To: ArcLight
***************"Ever wonder why few blacks would be caught dead hanging with conservatives?"****************************************

Ever wonder why conservatives don't have rap music on their boxes?

87 posted on 12/04/2001 8:10:12 AM PST by Chapita
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To: Phantom Lord
You've carried your own bags? You poor dear :) Normally when I go to a conference they try to help those with multiple bags carry them on the carts, more than likely so that they can then rush them back dowstairs instead of letting you spend your precious time hogging them.
88 posted on 12/04/2001 8:11:04 AM PST by CHELLEDC
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To: dead
Please find some 50 year old jazz lyrics that are comparable to the following

First, I would take blues lyrics, since they were raw and jazz was refined, and you know that.

Second, what was shocking fifty years ago wouldn't touch us today. You know that too.
89 posted on 12/04/2001 8:11:56 AM PST by Belial
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To: gehgehtester
Oh, I'm sorry. I was using the official DOJ figures - not the ones that exist only in your head.

Maybe you shouldn't have taken those classes in Afrocentric math.

90 posted on 12/04/2001 8:12:02 AM PST by wideawake
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To: ArcLight
Ever wonder why few blacks would be caught dead hanging with conservatives?

Well, with conservatives, you get the occasional open racist remark, that's probably true. With liberals, your alternative, you get paternalistic cant designed to distract thought and unvoiced virulent rascism.

At least that's what blacks I've known fairly well over the years have said, or similar remarks. One friend, who'd lived in both the South and the North, commented that "if a Southerner doesn't like black folk (her words), you know it. If a Southerner invites you in through the front dorr, you know she means it. Up North, white folks talk a whole lot about equality and invite you to parties, but send their kids to private school. Smile big at ya and cut you down behind your back."

91 posted on 12/04/2001 8:12:33 AM PST by CatoRenasci
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To: golitely
What are you referring to? This is the first reply I've made on this thread, and I haven't put the same reply on other threads. Therefore, what is this "spam" crap?
92 posted on 12/04/2001 8:13:31 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: AppyPappy
Actually, Spring Break in Florida went bad in the 80's. They finally shut it down and the kids go to Mexico now (better drinking laws for kids).

Where have you been? We've had record crowds for Spring Break here in Panama City Beach for easily the last ten, mybe 15 years and they have increased each year.

93 posted on 12/04/2001 8:13:52 AM PST by capt. norm
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To: proud patriot
What would you like to know?
94 posted on 12/04/2001 8:14:37 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: wideawake
40% of the violent crimes in this country are committed by 1% of the population - young black males. That's not a racist fantasy, that's a cold, hard fact.

Maybe so, but the fact that the researchers published the results of their research makes them racist, and makes the whole facts of the case, racist.

Don't you see it? The media paints us as the victim race, and as a member of the victim race, we can do no wrong. If we want your money and property, you better give it to us, because of the hardships my daddy... err... sperm donor has endured during slavery.

[end sarcasm]

95 posted on 12/04/2001 8:14:47 AM PST by Frohickey
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To: joathome
if we want to win converts and win elections,

You aren't going to "win converts and win elections" against the professional race baiters. Example: Houston just had an election for Mayor. The incumbent has proven his incompetence and ignorance in many jobs including Mayor of Houston. The winner ran a dishonest racist smear campaign against a decent, competent man who ran his campaign on the issues. Guess who won because 98%-99% of the black vote went for him. Where was the "center" vote in the black community? Do you think the winner may have gotten those votes because of his color?

96 posted on 12/04/2001 8:15:18 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: Belial
"The idea being that the 90% of blacks who vote Demo are slaves, and are to stupid to realize it."

So blacks are really inferior people who have a low mentality level? Ok.

97 posted on 12/04/2001 8:16:00 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Belial
In other words, you can't find any thing close to the types of crap they're spewing today, in the blues or jazz lyrics of 50 years ago. Nothing even remotely comparable.

I knew that, too.

98 posted on 12/04/2001 8:16:32 AM PST by dead
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To: one_particular_harbour
these guys were going off on condemnation of blacks as a whole - in a very ugly way.

I'm glad I missed that. I'm sorry to say that I don't doubt it.

However, I'm worried about another undercurrent I'm picking up on. Whenever there's anti-black or anti-Jewish rhetoric on FR, I can count on a vigorous response, but whenever there's anti-Arab or anti-Muslim rhetoric, it often goes unremarked. People who are ordinarily sensitive to bigotry seem to be tone-deaf to it when directed against certain populations.

Perhaps they're just cowed by the loud and angry individuals who equate the hatred of "ragheads" with patriotism. It's a worthless kind of tolerance that is only expressed when it is politically easy.

99 posted on 12/04/2001 8:16:51 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Belial
You probably know that many black soldiers returning from WW2 couldn't get into restaurants and hotels they were fighting to defend.

And those returning soldiers would kick the living sh!t out of the hooligans that frequent these spring breaks for blacks only and slander their own race with their atrocious behavior.

The fact of the matter is, black culture (to the extent such a thing exists) has taken its worst beating in the years since LBJ's Great Society boondogle. Prior to that time, the incidence of black children out of wedlock, divorce, and other key social indicators was far closer to their white countrymen, even while they endured real de jure discrimination in many parts of the country, and explicit socially "acceptable" discrimination in others. Yet black culture during this period produced many of its finest entertainers, scientists, soldiers and businessmen. Black areas of major cities, like Detroit, were vibrant, alive places where black owned businesses thrived and vital neighborhoods provided support to young families and where it was safe to raise children.

Something happened during the 60's and beyond to change that, and it wasn't the "legacy of slavery".

Try reading Thomas Sowell's Vision of the Annointed for a crash course on this topic.

BTW, your comparison of Jazz to gangsta rap, even if only accidental, is despicable. You should withdraw it at once, before I summon the spirit of Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Dizzie Gillispie and the like to smite thy blasphemous behind.

100 posted on 12/04/2001 8:17:40 AM PST by borkrules
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