[hsmomx3]

Money--everyone wants your donations!

[alnick]

Is that the woman with the big, lilac colored hair?

[The Truth Will Make You Free]

You are passing judgement with incomplete information. There's nothing wrong with a $5 million per se. For example, you have absolutely no idea how they are paying for this. Did they make wise investments? Was a businessman who was blessed by their ministry give a designated offering for this purpose only? Is the home owned by the ministry or the Crouches? Could it in fact be a wise investment?

Read Romans 14:1-4, 10
Rom 14:1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things.
Rom 14:2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables.
Rom 14:3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.
Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

If the Crouch's have faith for a $5 million house, who am I to criticize?

However, Romans 14:15, 21 continue:
Rom 14:15 Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died.
Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak.

So, perhaps in this the Crouches did err, in that their actions have grieved, offended, caused to stumble, and made weak people who have faith only to eat "vegetables".

[patent]

Matthew 6

19 "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal,
20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal.
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

[InvisibleChurch]

5 , 000 , 000 dollars buys a lot of food and blankets . It might even be enough to invest in a company that could hire more people to work.

[truthandlife]

Anybody that produces two of the worst movies of all time, "Omega Code" and "Meggido" should not have a right to live in a $5,000,000 house. Matt Crouch has to be one of the worst movie directors of all time.

All joking aside, what is unfortunate about TBN is that they will have some good evangelists on their station like Charles Stanley, Tony Evans, Franklin Graham, etc. sometimes and then they will have these deceptive snake handlers who have no concept of what the Bible says. There are many people that are new Christians who look at this channel and support whoever is on it.

[Shaka]

I just love it when Non-Christians tell Christians how to practice their faith...I'm sure all the "donations" to Larry Flynt, Hollywood and Disney World have a true "spiritual" value..it's not your money, don't bitch on how they get theirs...if you want an enemy to fight,don't make it a minister making money. There are thousands of ministers who barely make enough money to raise a family. Remember this when you start "clumping" them together. What if they ARE working for God...and you're not? Guess who's gonna be fried?

[Mr. Bob]

I have to reply to the above about TBN's Paul and Jan Crouch. What so many people don't understand about ministries is that the ministers are on salary decided upon by the board of the organizations. Being parents of ministers, I am in a position to know that a lot of people who support ministries, also give special gifts to the ministers for their own personal use. Also, they write books and receive royalties. From their salaries they also make wise investments. There are a lot of wealthy Christians who want to bless ministers because they love and appreciate them. So please, don't be so quick to find fault with God's anointed ministers. God's Word says "The workman is worthy of his hire" Mr. Bob's wife

[US_MilitaryRules]

Things must be slow! Donations are down.

[SC DOC]

Mercedes Benz

Oh Lord, wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Oh Lord, wont you buy me a color TV ?
Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me.
I wait for delivery each day until three,
So oh Lord, wont you buy me a color TV ?

Oh Lord, wont you buy me a night on the town ? Im counting on you, Lord, please dont let me down. Prove that you love me and buy the next round, Oh Lord, wont you buy me a night on the town ?

Everybody!
Oh Lord, wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends, Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, So oh Lord, wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Thats it!

Janis Joplin

[SC DOC]

Mercedes Benz

Oh Lord, wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Oh Lord, wont you buy me a color TV ?
Dialing For Dollars is trying to find me.
I wait for delivery each day until three,
So oh Lord, wont you buy me a color TV ?

Oh Lord, wont you buy me a night on the town ? Im counting on you, Lord, please dont let me down. Prove that you love me and buy the next round, Oh Lord, wont you buy me a night on the town ?

Everybody!
Oh Lord, wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends, Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, So oh Lord, wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Thats it!

Janis Joplin

[gdani]

Don't forget about Pat Robertson's gold mines in Liberia.

[Rustynailww]

anyone seen reverend euwing's church by mail?

[YaYa123]

The lady with the pink hair is really wierd looking, but hey! Why would we take as fact that she and her husband are buying a 5 million dollar home? The link does not take you to the Los Angeles Times, so how do we know this story was actually reported on it's pages?

I wish people here were more discerning.

[xm177e2]

Who wants to FReep their home?

[rockfish59]

somebody should kick him in the crouch!!

I FIR$T MET GAWD-UH!

[Dengar01]

I watch John Hagee on that channel, and everytime they beg for money, "we're going bankrupt, give us your money!!!" They make it out that you are no better than Satan if you don't pay donate hundreds or thousands of dollars to them. It doesn't surprise me in the least.

[mc5cents]

[mc5cents]

Hot August night
And the leaves hanging down
And the grass on the ground smelling sweet
Move up the road
To the outside of town
And the sound of that good gospel beat

Sits a ragged tent
Where there ain't no trees
And that gospel group
Telling you and me

It's Love
Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show
Pack up the babies
Grab the old ladies
Everyone goes
Everyone knows
Brother Love's show

Room gets suddenly still
And when you'd almost bet
You could hear yourself sweat, he walks in
Eyes black as coal
And when he lifts his face
Every ear in the place is on him

Starting soft and slow
Like a small earthquake
And when he lets go
Half the valley shakes

It's Love, Love
Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show
Pack up the babies
Grab the old ladies
Everyone goes
Everyone knows
Brother Love's show

Sermon

Take my hand in yours
Walk with me this day
In my heart, I know
I will never stray
Halle, halle, halle, halle, halle, halle, halle

It's Love, Love
Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show
Pack up the babies
Grab the old ladies
Everyone goes
Everyone knows
Brother Love's show
Amen

[Governor StrangeReno]

Step right up step right up to the Crucifiction commercial sale,here we go genuine silk scarves anointed by oil I personally blessed in the burial crypt of christ when last in Jerusalem,how much would you expect to pay for this not $50,not $40 but this week only $19.95 plus postage and handling.Step right up for the greatest story ever sold all we need is you to submit your mind,your resources and one tenth of your pay for the privaledge of those anointed in the spirit to truly run your life,we'll slay you in the spirit,we'll make you bark like a dog and make mental patient noises yes when Jesus anoints its an experience you'll never forget...as it always is when some asshole comes up the drive to sell me this crap.'Get off my land' cachink

[PleaseNoMore]

I am a Christian and I watch some of the programming on TBN. I will confess to being torn in my opinion of it's owners.

I have found some great programming on the channel. I have enjoyed listening to many of the ministers on the channel. Tommy Teney is one that I particulary enjoy ( he is the author of The God Chasers ).

I have turned the channel quite often when I hear the pleading for $$$. I believe that we should be the stewards of what Gid has given us and provide for His work. On the other hand, I believe that if the work being done is TRULY his then He will always make a way for it to continue.

I guess the ultimate judge of the Crouch's and the others will be God. If the ministry has been used to reach ONE soul, just one is it worth it?

I find it difficult to judge these people not knowing their hearts as I believe that only God may truly pass judgement. I do believe in rebuke if another is misappropriating ministry funds. I do believe in prosperity but not always as being a financial gain. I always believe in healing but not that you havbe to pay for it via a donation to any ministry. Faith is free.

If Paul Crouch has financed this home off of the sales of his book and recent movie endeavors and if he donates to his own ministry then I hold him blameless and consider him to be blessed. If not then I say that he needs to be rebuked and to step down.

I believe that an audit of their financial accounts is readily available to all who request it. I am not sure though.

I am not defending the ministry but I am not condemning it either. I will simply use prayer and discernment in the matter. I don't envy the Crouch's ability to purchase their home. If it is an honest purchase then I am happy that they are blessed. If not, then I am sincerely disappointed as they will only hinder the work that the Lord desires to have done and that is spreading the gospel.