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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Richard Axtell
You said it better than I could, Mr. Axtell. You wrote a great tribute to Jim and to Free Republic. I could tell it came from the heart.

The spontaneous show of support on this thread from freepers is most telling. It should give pause to those who seek to destroy the most influential, varied, informative and witty conservative web site in the nation.

Mr. Robinson puts his whole life into guiding and improving this forum and he does it wisely. The other sites that deal in vicious anti-FR vituperative will eventually fall from the weight of their own bitterness and discontent.

LONG LIVE FREE REPUBLIC!

Leni

3,701 posted on 08/06/2002 12:18:03 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: DeadManRunning
Bwahaha... Say hi to Marty for me, FRiend... ;)

Is that dude/dudette schizo or WHAT, man...

3,702 posted on 08/06/2002 12:19:22 PM PDT by maxwell
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it in its current form, if absolutely necessary I would be willing to pay a monthly membership fee to keep Freerepublic alive and to help keep the idiots out. There is nothing else like it on the web. The truth is here at Freerepublic.
3,703 posted on 08/06/2002 12:45:22 PM PDT by Fpimentel
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To: rintense; Jim Robinson
Thanks for bumping the thread, rintense.

I won't be chased off the forum by malcontents, RATs in disguise, Bush bashers, et al.

I enjoy the site and appreciate being able to post the Astronomy Picture of the Day,
put in my 2 cents' worth, and post pertinent articles on occasion.

I send donations monthly, and toss a little extra in the pot each quarter.
It's only fair that we support this site we use and enjoy.

Thanks again, Jim, for all your hard work and dedication to this website.

3,704 posted on 08/06/2002 12:52:46 PM PDT by petuniasevan
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To: Jim Robinson
As I suggested some time ago, FR would do well to operate simultaneously at two levels: one being the present arrangement and the other being a subscription-basis/value added web resource.

Re: the latter, topical forums such as religion, etc. could be accessed for a nominal fee as stand-alone services or as elective enhancements to the subscription-based resource.

Such would amke available to the FR and to FReepers the best of both worlds.

I'd be glad to discuss this further and perhaps help to implement and promote such a plan, so contact me if you wish....

3,705 posted on 08/06/2002 1:00:41 PM PDT by tracer
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To: Jim Robinson
I have been coming to FR for about two years now, I enjoy it very much. Maybe there are many like me who just drop in on occasion, post a line or two, but mostly just read. I do hope it will continue.
3,706 posted on 08/06/2002 1:21:43 PM PDT by reflecting
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To: rintense
thumbs-up for FR and JimRob ...rto
3,707 posted on 08/06/2002 1:23:06 PM PDT by visitor
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To: Jim Robinson

"UP!"

The only reason these people want to shut your website down is pure jealously. They are jealous of you and they hate you for your success. Just like they wish to foist the "fairness doctrine" on people like Rush Limbaugh they want you to shut up and they don't care how this is accomplished.

Judging from the number of drooling, whining, CINO, populist, wet panty, personality cult types on FR lately.. making it all but unbearable, I wouldn't call an orchestrated attack out of the question. A literal "conspiracy"

Regards Mr. Robinson.

PS: I couldn't care less about your finances or their publication. I would be willing to bet that most others feel the same way. The people who do are just looking for a stick to beat you with, so don't make a mistake by handing them one, imnsho.

3,708 posted on 08/06/2002 1:26:10 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Jim Robinson
I believe you could get enough money to run the site with advertising $. I expect there are alot of people who would like to promote their product/website on your site. I run http://www.bushcountry.org and would pay for advertising on FR if it was offered. Just a thought. All it takes is a software program to get things rolling, and someone to set it up for you. Once its set up, you don't really have to do anything but just put the banner/textlink up on the site. Just take a look the money Newsmax gets from their advertiser!

http://www.newsmax.com/mediakit/online.shtml
3,709 posted on 08/06/2002 1:45:17 PM PDT by justme346
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To: Just another Joe
BTTT
3,710 posted on 08/06/2002 2:24:57 PM PDT by bazbo
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To: Saundra Duffy
Well said. FR has literally changed America.
3,711 posted on 08/06/2002 3:10:34 PM PDT by lager
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To: DeadManRunning
I would say the owners operators and members of other sites shouldnt flatter themselves thinking Jim or John Robinson gives a ratsbutt about them. Compare the two; it is now like the old comparison of FR to DU. Now DU is replaced...

Have a nice time over there.

3,712 posted on 08/06/2002 3:15:49 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
it is now like the old comparison of FR to DU. Now DU is replaced...

Have a nice time over there.

You know what? Purely from reading the comments on "tlf" - if you didn't know the ideology that dominates the place - you might think you WERE reading DU. Their hatred for President Bush is obviously no less intense than the hatred liberal Democrats feel for him.

Strange bedfellows and all that. It's weird. They sound like my version of hell: a bunch of James Carvilles, with that continuous ugly scowl on his face and a constant stream of words coming from the pit of his rancid, hate-filled heart.

Guess I got carried away there for a minute...but it's true. Just look sometime - but make sure there's a shower nearby.

3,713 posted on 08/06/2002 3:27:15 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, We all know how evil and powerfull the radical left has become in this country. We also know how influencial FR has become. Your Web Site has become a major asset for the cause of freedom throughout the world.

Jim, you, your partriotism, your honesty, your courage under fire, your tenacity etc etc etc. has the radical left pissing their pants. What to do? What to do? These low life slimey cowards are at their (dim)wits end. All that is left is personal attacks (Clinton legacy) and there is no one better at it than these leftoids (as in hemroid--pain in the ass, won't stay where they belong).

Jim, I suggest you use a good suppository so it won't be too painfull, sit on a real big toilet, and just pass these detractors once and for all. Flush immediately so as to not stink up the place. Their filthy stench precedes them and will certainly linger if not dealt with. Good luck.

May God protect you from the filth of the world as you do His will.
3,714 posted on 08/06/2002 3:30:15 PM PDT by lager
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To: justme346
Hey, I know you!

(I'm Katie, met you at CPAC.... I had the other Votematic!)
3,715 posted on 08/06/2002 3:30:59 PM PDT by LurkerNoMore!
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To: justme346
That's yours? Kudos!!
3,716 posted on 08/06/2002 3:32:51 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Jhoffa_
PS: I couldn't care less about your finances or their publication.

Dear man, you just gave some (probably less than 10) people an outright stroke. Doncha know it drives them up the wall when we say we hope Jim drives a Mercedes and has a neato pool? :-)

3,717 posted on 08/06/2002 3:33:12 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: tomkat
btw, had anyone pinged Arthur to this thread yet ?

Just so you'll know, I got it. :-) Well done.

3,718 posted on 08/06/2002 3:36:29 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
He f'in should..

The man has become (willingly or not.. it's happened) the Rush Limbaugh of the internet..

I hope he flies a lear jet and sticks his tougue out every time he passes over algor's house.

I don't care if he has a monorail system between the front door and the mailbox and I seriously doubt that others do either.

He is successful and real Conservatives reward that.. Socialists don't.

3,719 posted on 08/06/2002 3:44:21 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic is not a fraud, please do keep it up, we will support you.
3,720 posted on 08/06/2002 3:44:25 PM PDT by exnavy
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