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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: diotima; Howlin
The art historian babe posts at Smirking Chimp when not antifreeping. Is there a difference?
3,121 posted on 12/02/2001 4:29:28 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: diotima; Bryan; incindiary
Thanks for the kind words. I must admit, it's great to be back. I especially enjoy tearing through the archives and bumping the posts of yesteryear. Some threads are no longer around, of course, but many good ones still are. We must never forget Chinagate. Never forget China.

Let us not fall into slumber.

3,122 posted on 12/02/2001 4:44:55 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: alcuin
You seem to be doing a good job of keeping up, and you're right about it being a fair game. Free Republic CAN hold up to the scrutiny. There's no rule saying that the same scrutiny can't apply to other sites. It's a bit hard to take anyone seriously when they stand to the side of the fire, while holding someone else's feet in it.
3,123 posted on 12/02/2001 4:46:02 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
"Thanks for the kind words. I must admit, it's great to be back."

I vote for you to stay, Harry.

3,124 posted on 12/02/2001 4:47:54 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: mountaineer
OMG, she like those aliens in Independence Day, moving from forum to forum, sucking the life out of them.
3,125 posted on 12/02/2001 4:48:49 PM PST by Howlin
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To: calvarys
Amazing. Over 3,000 posts and you couldn't glean that little tidbit of information?

Heck, I ain't gonna draw you a picture....

3,129 posted on 12/02/2001 4:59:24 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: calvarys
You can always sell it.

How much do you think it is worth? Not a trick question.

3,130 posted on 12/02/2001 5:02:42 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Arator
It would be a mistake to presume that everyone who posts to an "AFer" board is of one mind...

That would be a mistake because it would mean that everyone at the AFer board collectively make up "one mind." All evidence there is testimony to the contrary.

3,131 posted on 12/02/2001 5:06:10 PM PST by ReaganGirl
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To: ReaganGirl
Hahahahahahahaha!

There is a bit too much credit being given out, I grant you. Oh well...better to whine over there than here.

3,132 posted on 12/02/2001 5:13:20 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: TLBSHOW
That would be a good picture for this.
3,133 posted on 12/02/2001 5:14:36 PM PST by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson
Hey! Kewl link! Can anybody upload pics?
3,134 posted on 12/02/2001 5:16:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: John Robinson
Uh, oh! You've opened up Pandora's box :-}
3,135 posted on 12/02/2001 5:21:04 PM PST by Vermonter
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To: Bryan
"The starting point is that 90% identify themselves as Christian but only 50% go to church."

I was born Jewish, became a Christian in the late '60s, have been Assemblies of God (John Ashcroft's denomination), Southern Baptist (you-know-who-the-ex-pres's [spit] alleged denomination [the spit was for the ex-p, not the SBC, BTW]), and regularly attended several other denoms as well as "independent" churchs. I haven't attended any church for some time now (mainly because too much stuff like what's going on in this thread goes on in RL in churches), but I consider myself no less a Christian for my non-attendance.

BTW, as to "what's going on in this thread" -- after looking at some of it (which has already consumed more hours than I normally spend on "regular" FR browsing), and having found URLs to a couple of "anti-freep" sites (frankly, I had no interest in looking at any of them prior to this), my gut sense is that Jim is getting a mega-dose of "no good deed shall go unpunished". I commiserate with him, as I've taken similar lumps in other venues, although at a level an order of magnitude lesser than he's sustaining. I doubt I'd be able to maintain my composure if I'd taken a fraction of the hit he's enduring.

I don't know how all will shake out, but cynic that I am, I still hope for the best, and I hope FR is able to keep on truckin'. It's a valuable site, and there's really no replacement in sight.

3,136 posted on 12/02/2001 5:35:15 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: John Robinson
Great Link and pictures. Thanks John.
3,137 posted on 12/02/2001 5:42:01 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: John Robinson
Hey, my name didn't show up next to my "This little piggie..." caption on image 7. *sniff*
3,138 posted on 12/02/2001 5:44:15 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
I'd be worried if my name came up on the pic I posted...I got in trouble for that a few months ago.
3,139 posted on 12/02/2001 5:45:28 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Howlin
OMG, she like those aliens in Independence Day, moving from forum to forum, sucking the life out of them.

And from the mist, if you listen closely, roars riotous laughter at this perfect description of JenLart. But then, it just fades away...

3,140 posted on 12/02/2001 6:06:54 PM PST by Arator
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