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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Torie
Yes, I highly suspect you're being delusional as well. :-)
2,681 posted on 11/30/2001 11:23:19 PM PST by Freeman Patrick Henry
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To: Arator
I have many arrows in my quiver. But then you already knew that. :)
2,682 posted on 11/30/2001 11:23:53 PM PST by Torie
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To: Freeman Patrick Henry
I'm more of a Jefferson or Rand type old leftist.

Hmmm. Jefferson and Rand. Do those two really go together?

I'm a Jeffersonian myself. I dream of an Agrarian society ruled by yeomen farmers living about a starry constellation of vibrant and thriving small towns -- like the Old Republic (pre-1861).

It's sort of capitalism (capitalism is a word like conservative, n'est pas? it really means anything and nothing) applied to politics, if you catch my meaning.

Capitalism is the servant, not the master, and should not be made the sole end of society. It is but a means to society's true ends, and that is all.

2,683 posted on 11/30/2001 11:29:38 PM PST by Arator
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To: Torie
But I highly suspect I'm being delusional. :)

More the latter but I'm sure you are cuter than a bug's ear. Alan is around just not here.

2,684 posted on 11/30/2001 11:31:04 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
More the latter but I'm sure you are cuter than a bug's ear. Alan is around just not here.

Those of us still on the outs anxiously await the day when the rest of us will be welcome in that mysterious place where Alan is. ;^)

2,685 posted on 11/30/2001 11:37:19 PM PST by Arator
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To: DAnconia55
If you want dope, you'll have to pay for it like everyone else...

Prison.

2,686 posted on 11/30/2001 11:40:19 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Arator
"Capitalism is the servant, not the master, and should not be made the sole end of society."

Well, in a sense. Capitalism is the only social system based upon individual rights.

I said Jefferson and Rand because of Jefferson's quest for learning, and Rand's adoration of reason. Religiously, of course, they don't coincide. Though, contary to popular belief, most of the founding fathers (including Jefferson) were not Christian, but deist.
2,687 posted on 11/30/2001 11:41:24 PM PST by Freeman Patrick Henry
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To: Arator
Do you know where the River Styx is? Probably not, since I suspect you are not a fellow pagan in good standing.
2,688 posted on 11/30/2001 11:41:35 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Do you know where the River Styx is? Probably not, since I suspect you are not a fellow pagan in good standing.

I believe that is in Hades. Have you bought a voyage down it's confluence lately? I believe it only costs the coins which are placed over your eyes just prior to your journey.

Being a highly placed official in the Pentagram, er, Pentagon, perhaps you've attended Bohemian Grove. I hear that is a pagan's delight.

Say, you wouldn't happen to know the identity of the anti-Christ, would you? LOL.

2,689 posted on 11/30/2001 11:46:23 PM PST by Arator
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To: Arator
Those of us still on the outs anxiously await the day when the rest of us will be welcome in that mysterious place where Alan is. ;^)

Don't we all. I think it's called Xanadu. And permit me to paraphrase:


Xanadu


"To seek the sacred river Alph
To walk the caves of ice
To break my fast on honey dew
And drink the milk of paradise..."

I had heard the whispered tales
Of immortality
The deepest mystery
From an ancient book. I took a clue
I scaled the frozen mountain tops
Of eastern lands unknown
Time and Man alone
Searching for the lost ‹ Xanadu

Xanadu ‹ To stand within The Pleasure Dome
Decreed by Kubla Khan
To taste anew the fruits of life
The last immortal man
To find the sacred river Alph
To walk the caves of ice
Oh, I will dine on honey dew
And drink the milks of Paradise

A thousand years have come and gone
But time has passed me by
Stars stopped in the sky
Frozen in an everlasting view
Waiting for the world to end
Weary of the night
Praying for the light
Prison of the lost ‹ Xanadu

Xanadu ‹ Held within The Pleasure Dome
Decreed by Kubla Khan
To taste my bitter triumph
As a mad immortal man
Nevermore shall I return
Escape these caves of ice
For I have dined on honey dew
And drunk the milk of Paradise


2,690 posted on 11/30/2001 11:47:29 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Arator
perhaps you've attended Bohemian Grove

No, I don't favor primitive accommodations, and attending a spectacle of a bunch of men my age acting out like we were still frat boy stallions. But it is really more a matter of aesthetics. Nothing more I assure you, except of course I haven't been invited anyway.

2,691 posted on 11/30/2001 11:51:53 PM PST by Torie
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To: nunya bidness
You're saying he died?
2,692 posted on 11/30/2001 11:52:25 PM PST by Freeman Patrick Henry
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To: Freeman Patrick Henry
Nope. He just crossed over. Infinitely more refreshing.
2,693 posted on 11/30/2001 11:55:18 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
What? OK, you're getting cryptic on me...
2,694 posted on 11/30/2001 11:55:42 PM PST by Freeman Patrick Henry
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To: Freeman Patrick Henry
OK, let me try and see what you are saying:
Either

1. He died (OK, he went into the afterlife)
or
2.He went underground.
2,695 posted on 11/30/2001 11:58:15 PM PST by Freeman Patrick Henry
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To: Torie
No, I don't favor primitive accommodations, and attending a spectacle of a bunch of men my age acting out like we were still frat boy stallions. But it is really more a matter of aesthetics. Nothing more I assure you, except of course I haven't been invited anyway.

Too bad. I hear they bellow praises to the pagan god Molloch, dance wildly around owl statues and big bonfires, engage in orgies with CIA mind-controlled sex slaves, and other similar eccentric elite proclivities. Of course, if you had attended and broke your blood oath of secrecy about it, you might be taking that trip down the river Styx sooner than you wish. So, by all means. keep it to yourself. LOL.

2,696 posted on 11/30/2001 11:59:42 PM PST by Arator
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To: nunya bidness
Nope. He just crossed over. Infinitely more refreshing.

LOL. You slay me.

2,697 posted on 12/01/2001 12:00:55 AM PST by Arator
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To: Arator
Arator, what is the significance of your handle? The only possibility I can think of is an obscure man called St. Arator.
2,698 posted on 12/01/2001 12:14:46 AM PST by Freeman Patrick Henry
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To: Freeman Patrick Henry
Arator, what is the significance of your handle? The only possibility I can think of is an obscure man called St. Arator.

Nope, I borrowed it from John Taylor of Caroline, a Virginia planter and Jeffersonian who, in the early 1800's, wrote some prescent political commentary warning his countrymen of the dangers posed by the combination of federal power and northern commercial interests to agriculture and his native region, the South. He wrote these essays under the pseudonym, Arator. As I am an Agrarian Jeffersonian and Confederate sympathizer at heart, I adopted his pseudonym as my FReeper name.

2,699 posted on 12/01/2001 12:21:18 AM PST by Arator
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To: John Robinson
The moderators made a judgement call IMHO partially based upon a misinterpretation of Jim's intent

We have been assured, over and over and over again, that the moderators do not ever misinterpret Jim's intent to suit their own whims or agenda, so you have to be mistaken. A thing like that is impossible…so we've been told.

2,700 posted on 12/01/2001 12:49:54 AM PST by Scuttlebutt
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