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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
It would not be right if Free Republic went down because of some whining wimps holding a grudge. This is the greatest forum for free expression that exists on the internet but free expression bears responsibility and I applaud the careful monitoring and banning of those who are not capable of following a few basic simple rules that are based on good principles.

Long Live Free Republic and Thank You Jim Robinson.

241 posted on 11/28/2001 8:17:13 PM PST by slimer
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To: Jim Robinson

Donation on its way Badjoe

242 posted on 11/28/2001 8:17:25 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: Jim Robinson
The post are comming almost faster than I can read them. I hope the bucks follow as quickly. Mine will. I will be changing from random contributions to the monthly charge off to a credit card. I appreciate the work being done by all concerned and am happy to add my work in the form of dollars to keep this site alive. I understand the conservative, political nature of the site and came here during the election. But I would deeply miss the cheese threads if censoring became necessary. Also, I am still waiting to find out if that d!mn cat is dead or not. Sooner or later someone is gonna open that box and I want to read about it on FreeRepublic.
244 posted on 11/28/2001 8:17:33 PM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Jim Robinson
I think it's time to have posting priviledges reserved to paid sponsors. Monthly fee, with optional lower yearly rate. While I have been an irregular donor, I would certainly have kept myself paid up, if required (and I will donate this round).

We would see fewer of the fun-but-now-overwhelming type threads. Disruptors would melt away, or at least help support the forum they seek to destroy.

I've been a half-hearted user of other services that have instituted fees... and I stopped using them. This forum, I would not walk away from.

Thanks, Jim.


Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.

245 posted on 11/28/2001 8:18:27 PM PST by EdZep
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To: William Wallace; Jim Robinson
"I thought you were going to tell everyone what happened the time Eschoir took Viagra."

You mean that he got taller?

Everyone that knows Eschy knows that!

246 posted on 11/28/2001 8:18:32 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Jim Robinson
Pleeeease stay! I am a lifelong conservative who feels like I have just come out of the wilderness into the friendly home of FreeRepublic. When I meet people who quietly agree that President Bush is doing a good job, or that they admire Laura Bush, or that they are closet conservatives, I always try to interest them in FR. Anti-freepers should not be able to turn you from your wonderful mission.
247 posted on 11/28/2001 8:18:39 PM PST by maica
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To: WillaJohns
I will pay a lot if you make it a subscription site. Nothing till then.

I just want to make sure no one misses your comment.

Mercy's a certifiable nut job.

He won't pay his way unless he's FORCED to.

248 posted on 11/28/2001 8:18:41 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: BADJOE
Joe, I'm going to NY on Saturday. Put me down for $200...do I have to repledge, or can you just use the Credit card on file?
249 posted on 11/28/2001 8:18:42 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic a fraud?

Free Republic is FRaudulent to the extent that all us FReepers Creepers are FRaudulent. That makes us ONE GREAT BIG HAPPY FR FAMILY. So now, all you NON-Fraudulent purists, leave us alone.

WE'RE ADDICTED TO FR. HELP!!!!!!

After the law suit is no more, is it possible to charge a nominal fee for posting privileges?

250 posted on 11/28/2001 8:19:03 PM PST by Gracey
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To: Hildy
oops...I meant that private! :)
251 posted on 11/28/2001 8:19:27 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Jim Robinson
Let's show those "other" dot-coms! This will be the one that never folds! It's time for another Freepathon.
252 posted on 11/28/2001 8:19:28 PM PST by July 4th
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To: Jim Robinson
To All:

There have been many well intentioned suggestions about supporting FRT through ad revenue (do we really want this site cluttered up with ads about K cars and Tidybowl anyway?), subscriptions, membership fees etc. At this point, FR cannot do any of these things without violating it's FAIR USE claim in the lawsuit. It's been gone over many times and the only viable way to fund this site is through the individual voluntary donations from it's fans. Taking subscriptions or membership fees would mean excerpting and linking and Jim (and most others) feel this would take away fromt he essential nature of the site. Plus, we'd have to lose ALL the archives.

BTW - Those that feel there should be a monthly fee can always sign up for a monthy donation. Six of one half dozen of another.

253 posted on 11/28/2001 8:19:31 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Jim Robinson
Now that I'm addicted, there's talk of going away? YIKES!!
254 posted on 11/28/2001 8:19:32 PM PST by paul51
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, if you close down Free Republic then you play right into the liberal Democrats hands. This is just another way for them to silence Republicans. This site has allowed Republican to help get their message out. There is no site like it on the net. Why do you think the liberal left is attacking it the way they are. Stick to your guns, the Republican party and conservatives everywhere need Free Republic. Do what you have to to keep it going.
255 posted on 11/28/2001 8:19:42 PM PST by Kath
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To: Jim Robinson
Sometimes these threads have an unfortunate (to my mind) "grovel" flavor to them, with effusive compliments directed your way and a whole bunch of backslapping going on. That's not really my style.

But in this case you have put out a serious question that I read with alarm. Free Republic a fraud? Your integrity in question? NEVER. This site is clearly run according the highest standards of accountability and transparency.

The political tenor of the forum is conservatism within the boundaries of sane discourse, which seems to irritate the 'tin-foil' crowd. But who cares? Let them whine.

256 posted on 11/28/2001 8:19:47 PM PST by beckett
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To: cayuga
Please Freepmail real name. Thank you Joe
258 posted on 11/28/2001 8:20:18 PM PST by BADJOE
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To: is_is
Eschoir is suing his parents for not practicing proper birth control.
259 posted on 11/28/2001 8:20:25 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Jim Robinson
I don't care if you are making $5,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 per month. This website and my donations to it are racking up good karma for me.

Thanks Jim, God bless you and yours.

260 posted on 11/28/2001 8:20:45 PM PST by Outraged
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