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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
If Free Republic is a Fraud, then Bill Clinton is the Tooth Fairy.....PLEASE keep Free Republic going....I'll give my monthly amount again (I'm due). This is the best site on the web, although it is ADDICTIVE, and I'm having to wean myself away somewhat.
221 posted on 11/28/2001 8:14:15 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic is not a Fraud and there will never be a time that Free Republic should go away.
222 posted on 11/28/2001 8:14:26 PM PST by Orion78
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
It's cash only for me.
223 posted on 11/28/2001 8:14:28 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jim Robinson
I LOVE Free Republic! It kept me sane during last year's election fiasco. I receive more current, newsworthy information HERE than anywhere else. That's why Free Republic is my home page! It's NOT a fraud, but a "shining city" on the internet hill!

FReepers are the wittiest, funniest and most informed people I know! And tin foil! We've got those types too just for fun!

I'm stickin' with Free Republic, Jim and I hope you will too!

I'm ordering everybody to support Jim, Free Republic AND to be nice to each other!

Free Republic Forever!

Good night and thank you all!

224 posted on 11/28/2001 8:14:29 PM PST by libsrscum
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To: Askel5
Oh horse feathers! Jim is obviously 'donating' a huge portion of his life while you and I and 99% of FReepers don't even come close to that. It's not fair. This site isn't JUST about some 'Cause'. Most of us are just having fun most of the timne. It's entertainment and you know it. YOU are one of the most serrious and one of the most effective activists here but don't think that's why most of the others are here. No matter what BS they tell themselves. It's up to JR how much of his blood sweat and tears he is willing to donate to the cause but WE have no right to expect everything from him. Personally I think he should be paying himself at least 150k a year to run FR.
225 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:01 PM PST by mercy
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To: Mojo; Inspector Harry Callahan; Arator; keep U.S. Sovereign; TKEman; chuck allen; Jim Robinson
Hey, Mojo et al! Thank you for serving FR in your own special and unique capacity by being such excellent incentives for fundraising. Can we get a promise that you'll come around every quarter to serve such a useful purpose?

The "Rush Limbaugh of the internet." I like it!

227 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:17 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: sirgawain
Selling internet ads doesn't bring much revenue. No one clicks them.

I bet you could get some clicking going on this site. LOL You gotta love it.

228 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:21 PM PST by The Real Deal
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To: Luis Gonzalez
what is the Eschoir law suit about? how'd i miss that?
229 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:24 PM PST by is_is
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To: Jim Robinson
Here's another vote for keeping going. I don't pay any attention to the whining threads!!
230 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:26 PM PST by alley cat
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, it looks like 70,000 say keep FR........guess I'll go along with the majority. (actually, you just wanted to set a new record for the thread with the most replies :)
231 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:33 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Jim Robinson; ohioWfan; lawgirl; Republic; Wphile; GretchenEE; rintense; *Bush Babes list
Please don't close down FRee Republic! This site has become a huge part of my life. I would be lost and in the dark without it!

I know you Jim; we have traveled to Modesto together to FReep Gary Condit, we FReep the peacenics in Fresno every Friday night, we greeted President Bush when he landed at the Fresno Airport on his way to Sequoia National Park. This one thing I know above all others: you are a good, decent man who is a patriot above all. There isn't a dishonest bone in your body.

Free Republic is where I get my news. The networks can't be trusted to tell us what is really going on in this country. The media has an agenda that they are pushing and preserving our free press isn't part of it. Without Free Republic, we wouldn't know what is going on.

I have made friends for life through Free Republic. These are people that I would never have met otherwise.

Long live Free Republic and Jim Robinson! (my contribution is in the mail)

232 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:50 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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To: Jim Robinson
How 'bout selling web services like KeepAndBearArms??? I'd love an address@FreeRebublic.com. I'd pay $20/mth for web access by FreeRepublic.
233 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:52 PM PST by havoc1us
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To: Jim Robinson
A thank you, as profound and sincere as I can muster, is yours

Truth is, FR is one of the greatest boons of my already rich life, and I would grieve and be lost should you fold your tent.

I'll be getting some bread to you, but I have the thought that our casual and voluntary contributions may be too unreliable for your bills to be paid with assurance.

I am wondering if a single, unobtrusive ad would help...a nice, non-flashy link to Amazon, for instance. Us Freepers would swamp 'em, you'd get a little return. I'm unsure how all that works, but it might be a viable, low-impact solution. We're always posting links to them, for Barbara Olson's book, etc.

The clean and spacious beauty of the page, graphics and layout are a class act and I think that could be maintained, even with such an ad/link.

No matter what, you are a blessing to sooooooooo many good people throughout the world.

Muchas gracias, amigos.

234 posted on 11/28/2001 8:15:58 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: breakem
"If you charged a monthly fee for posting, I'd subscribe."

Bingo—that's the right answer. Ignoring the fundraising issue, charging for the right to post has some very real benefits. First, it strengthens the "terms of service" contract, since actual money is changing hands. Second, it eliminates retreads, since when you ban an account you could ban any future attempts to register with the same credit card. And third, it weeds out disruptors—at least the ones on fixed incomes. :-)

235 posted on 11/28/2001 8:16:12 PM PST by Fabozz
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To: Jim Robinson
Do not close down. Post a link so I can donate. Thanks Jim.
236 posted on 11/28/2001 8:16:14 PM PST by glf
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To: Jim Robinson
You should definately keep it, Jim. FR is your calling in life. Yeah, that sounds kind of corny but it's true.
237 posted on 11/28/2001 8:16:17 PM PST by oldvike
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To: Fred Mertz
I was just being Silly, silly!

Hugs, not hits, Fred.

238 posted on 11/28/2001 8:16:23 PM PST by Silly
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To: Jim Robinson
Quit the belly-aching. Do the conservative thing: Set it up and issue an IPO and raise operating capital. Operate this company like a business, be accountable to shareholders and your detractors will go quietly into the night. I'll buy shares.
239 posted on 11/28/2001 8:16:40 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
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To: Jim Robinson
1. WOW. I had no idea how expensive it is to run this site.

2. Hugh Hewitt just said on his show today that most talk show hosts use FR as their resource for info. (They owe you.)

3. HOW ABOUT A PLEDGE DRIVE with gifts like on PBS. "Free Republic" t-shirts, bumperstickers, mugs, umbrellas-- your special gift depending upon the size of the contribution.

4. Is there any way to cut down on non-fixed expenses?

5. I'm curious to know what percentage of your costs is covered by ads.

6. I don't understand why, if you currently have for-profit status, you would need to justify your budget.

7. Until you just mentioned it, I didn't know there were any anti-FR sites.

240 posted on 11/28/2001 8:17:11 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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