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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jeff Head
Jim invited us over to discuss integrity and credibility. As for the privileged nature of it, that's between Jim and Clarity. I specifically asked if I was authorized to post it, and was told I was.
2,401 posted on 11/30/2001 11:41:52 AM PST by Z2
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan

 

2,402 posted on 11/30/2001 11:44:15 AM PST by Registered
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To: Jeff Head
It's possible he came by it through NNLB via Eschoir at TTC/AFWA, or Eschoir directly. Eschoir optained a lot of personal imformation through his discovery in the lawsuit. Just my opinion.
2,403 posted on 11/30/2001 11:46:22 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet; Jeff Head
Eschoir claims he has burned a CD of his discovery and has offered it to the anti-Freepers.
2,404 posted on 11/30/2001 11:49:08 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Er, methinks you have no idea what you're talking about. Just a hunch....

http://forums.delphiforums.com/frureform/messages?msg=665.1

2,405 posted on 11/30/2001 11:49:30 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: A Navy Vet
Actually, it came from Brian himself.
2,406 posted on 11/30/2001 11:49:46 AM PST by Solson
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To: Miss Marple
#2378: "You were banned because you flaunted posting something after you had been specifically asked not to by Jim Robinson. I merely pointed out to Jim what you had done."

Your above comment reads like Websters definition of the word snitch.

Now,,,apologize to Arator and go back waving those Republican Party pom poms...

2,407 posted on 11/30/2001 11:51:08 AM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan; chuck allen; Clarity; Clinton's a liar; Jim Robinson
Here's an eye-opening gem I just received from Clarity:

Just one more thought or two:

If your lawyer ran up a hundred large without your consent, wouldn't you ban him AT LEAST?

And second, if you had a hundred large payable, and you wanted to run another snookerthon, wouldn't you allow people to think the payable had been incurred without your knowledge? And if some uninformed or malevolent, or both, poster, say Arator, posted that your lawyer was a scoundrel who had hoodwinked you for his own personal aims, mightn't you just let it be? Gosh, it could even improve the fundraising. Imagine that!

Have I been played? Very possibly. My apologies to Clarity and Clinton's a Liar for my presumption about the whole Esky suit matter. Obviously, none of us outside of the parties directly involved have all the facts. It was wrong of me to draw hasty conclusions based on scant and possibly one-sided information.

2,408 posted on 11/30/2001 11:52:55 AM PST by Arator
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To: Jim Robinson
The Free Republic is just about the only worthwhile thing on the net. I'm hooked.
2,409 posted on 11/30/2001 11:53:15 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Registered
I'll see yours and raise you one:


Above: Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator communicate with a female passerby in Dallas, TX.

2,410 posted on 11/30/2001 11:55:51 AM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
I think this thread may beat that election night thread you talked about.
2,411 posted on 11/30/2001 11:56:29 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Howlin

2,412 posted on 11/30/2001 11:57:23 AM PST by Churchill Gomez
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To: Churchill Gomez
Classic!
2,413 posted on 11/30/2001 11:59:27 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Z2
Jim invited us over to discuss integrity and credibility.

That's NOT quite what he said:

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say. Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it

I surely don't see where he implied he expected ingetrity or credibility from any of you all.

2,414 posted on 11/30/2001 12:00:53 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Which one is Arator? I was under the impression he was a little older than that....
2,415 posted on 11/30/2001 12:01:18 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Churchill Gomez
Goodness. No wonder you don't come out all that often.
2,416 posted on 11/30/2001 12:02:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Naughty naughty... You've been visiting AFWA, haven't you?
2,417 posted on 11/30/2001 12:02:33 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Which one is Arator? I was under the impression he was a little older than that....

Well, Harry, it's no wonder your cognitive skills come into question here so often; how could you be expected to believe in the moon landing if you don't even recognize yourself in photographs!

2,418 posted on 11/30/2001 12:04:52 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
That's a good question. Thanks!
2,419 posted on 11/30/2001 12:05:48 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jethro Tull
Dear Jethro,

Apparently the abuse button is only to be used for praise and compliments, according to you. Feh.

I will not apologize to Arator, and I do not expect him to apologize to me.

You, however, can go pound sand.

Yours truly,
Miss Marple, Head Bushie Cheerleader (Rah, rah, rah ...Go W!!!)

2,420 posted on 11/30/2001 12:09:17 PM PST by Miss Marple
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