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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
A good 48 hours..

I hope I can stay awake for that long. I love a good food fight! (it's just like Animal House)

1,981 posted on 11/29/2001 4:59:17 PM PST by airborne
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To: Howlin
The way you say things around here, what was I to think Harry. You're not the most reputable poster on here, you know.

He used to be reputable, something must of happened to him.

He certainly doesn't handle it as well with whatever he has as Jim Robinson has, who has muscular dystrophy and is wheel chair bound, and at the same time having his wife suffer a debilitating stroke.

1,982 posted on 11/29/2001 5:00:06 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Arator
For definitive proof of harrowup's insanity, one need only look to this, his latest nonsensical rant. I rest my case.

For a guy who is glorying in dropping hints about the great Gargantua, talking about "unmistakeable style" and such-like, you certainly turned dumb quick when harrowup dropped oldtimer/insider references. That's just "insanity". **snicker** ;-)

1,983 posted on 11/29/2001 5:00:14 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
He can't resist rebutting your arguments over and over and over and over, even though he WON the argument HUNDREDS of posts ago.

That, of course, is YOUR opinion. That is, unless you need to run back over to the AF site and ask eschoir what to say or do next.

1,984 posted on 11/29/2001 5:00:59 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Arator
Yea, sad indeed. FR is an intellectual moonscape compared to the FR of old. Ah, those were the days...

Ah yes, but you seem to have traveled by shank's mare to enlighten us of the disparity of our discourse. Thank you.

1,985 posted on 11/29/2001 5:01:39 PM PST by Fury
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
You know Harry, although you are absolutely nuts, you really are too smart and too good natured with too much of a developed sense of humor (part of it is not taking oneself too seriously) to get banned if you put the slightest effort into avoiding it. What went wrong? In any event, it is FR's loss, because many of your posts were a heck of a lot of fun, and some nuts, and some both. Take care.
1,986 posted on 11/29/2001 5:02:10 PM PST by Torie
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To: Jim Robinson; oldglory
" ...But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it."

NO WAY do I want Free Republic to go away! Are you KIDDING????? I can't believe some of these whining victim mentalities with their stupid "complaints". If they don't like it here, they need to leave. Let them start their own web site.

Thanks, Jim and the rest of you who devote so much time, effort, and resources to keep Free Republic up and running so well. You all are MUCH appreciated by the vast majority of us.

1,987 posted on 11/29/2001 5:02:44 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Don't sweat it...not too many have. (chuckle)

See ya around...

SR

1,989 posted on 11/29/2001 5:03:13 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: Jim Robinson
FREE REPUBLIC IS NEEDED .... NOW MORE THAN EVER !!!
1,990 posted on 11/29/2001 5:04:33 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: OkieGrit2
I stand corrected. I remember the pre-election days, and you are totally correct.
1,991 posted on 11/29/2001 5:04:46 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: malador
I would like to read that particular passage in the Patriot Act. Could you point it out for me? Or maybe post that section? Thanks, oh and here's a link...

Patriot Act

1,992 posted on 11/29/2001 5:04:47 PM PST by WIMom
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To: WIMom
Very interesting.
1,993 posted on 11/29/2001 5:05:44 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Torie
Hi Torie. Good to see you again. How's the FR's most articulate Neo-con been doing of late?
1,994 posted on 11/29/2001 5:06:33 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jethro Tull
I wondered where the ol Populist had gone....
1,995 posted on 11/29/2001 5:07:03 PM PST by VinnyTex
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To: ofMagog
Well said my dear friend. Thank you for being in my life and I too am grateful to FR for so many things.
1,996 posted on 11/29/2001 5:07:05 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Jim Robinson
Add me to the list of people who would pay an annual subscription fee. $50 would be a no-brainer. Maybe $75. Might start to choke at $100 but would probably still pay. (I donated more than that in 2000.)

Free Republic is more valuable to me than cable or daily newspaper, both of which cost more than $100/year.

1,997 posted on 11/29/2001 5:08:08 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: Cataclysmic Kansan
Also, what kind of Conservative news forum goes rah, rah, kill 'em all, and agrees to every bit of restrictive legislation passed or considered. Get a grip people.

Excellent and probing questions, my fellow Kansan! Please email me at aratorfr@yahoo.com. It's important for you to be plugged into the email FReeper grapevine, as FReepers who ask excellent and probing questions have been known to just suddenly disappear (and not of their own choosing). If I have your email addy, at least I can throw you a lifeline should you ever need it and save you from FReeper oblivion.

1,998 posted on 11/29/2001 5:08:27 PM PST by Arator
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To: Fury
I just got this on my AIM:

Well, I know, but if FR is so awful, why are they lurking around in cyberspace just waiting for the chance to post once again? Why don't they go spend their time doing something more productive?

You'd think they would, wouldn't you? I mean, as soon as Jim said he would let them back on, here they were.

1,999 posted on 11/29/2001 5:11:04 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Arator
yoink
2,000 posted on 11/29/2001 5:11:14 PM PST by AppyPappy
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