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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
I would pay a yearly fee to keep it going.
1,781 posted on 11/29/2001 2:28:31 PM PST by GregB
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To: Z2
Who in the hell are you? An IRS agent? Jim's mother? What's your annual salary? How much do you weigh? Have you had intercourse with a member of the same sex? What time do you go to sleep at night? What time do you wake up? What do you eat for breakfast on a regular basis? Do you have regular bowel movements? What is your cholesterol level? Do you use illegal drugs? How old are you? What is your religion? Do you smoke cigarettes? Are you married? Do you have children? Have you ever been arrested? Are you a felon? Have you served in the military? Do you belong to any communists organizations? How much money have you donated to a political organization? What is your social security number? What did you have for lunch last June 3, 1999? Did you go to college? What is your IQ? Have you had major surgery anywhere on your person, especially above your neck? Do you drink alcohol? Are you physically challenged? Who did you vote for in your last state election? What time zone do you live in? Do you have a passport? What is your favorite color? Have you been tested for STD's? Have you been in a scouting organization? What is your name? Are your parents alive? Do you use birth control? Do you use hemmoriod ointment? What color is your hair? What is your driver's license number? What is your phone number? Where were you born? Do you have AIDS? Have you ever had intercourse with a relative? What do you have for dinner on a regular basis? When was the last time you cleaned your toliet? Do you burp or fart? Do you have heart murmers? What was the last movie you saw? Do you believe in God? Why don't you get a life?
1,782 posted on 11/29/2001 2:30:33 PM PST by WIMom
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
A gentleman (code name: Eschoir) was forcible evicted from this forum some years ago after posting increasingly depraved threats and personal attacks. He proceeded to create several dozen aliases, under which he continued his acerbic assaults. Try as Jim would, he was unable to keep up with all the rants. Eventually, he asked FR's legal counsel if he could seek legal restraints on the disruptor. That action was pursued in the appropriate courts, and a decision was rendered in Free Republic's favor. Eschoir is enjoined from posting on this forum under any alias whatsoever.
1,783 posted on 11/29/2001 2:31:22 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Well I have been following this thread, and would like to know is there anything wrong going on at FreeRepublic, but can't tell from all the bashing going on here. You seem to have a dog in this fight and are respected by quite a few here, so could you please give me and others a honest view from your side of what has happened.

BigMack

1,784 posted on 11/29/2001 2:32:09 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: airborne
"All that is gold does not glitter

I believe the actual quote is "All is not gold that glitters."

1,785 posted on 11/29/2001 2:34:00 PM PST by IronJack
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To: WIMom
LOL LOL LOL!!!
1,786 posted on 11/29/2001 2:34:30 PM PST by firewalk
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To: WIMom
heheh, I see you have picked up the recurring theme......
1,787 posted on 11/29/2001 2:36:54 PM PST by diotima
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To: Z2
" The thread has since been flushed."

As you should be!

1,788 posted on 11/29/2001 2:37:21 PM PST by dalereed
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To: RightOnline
Little dude got four.........count 'em............four shots today. Boy, is he feelin' just ducky-poo..............

:-(

See? All the more reason he needs a hug and a kiss from Nita. ;-) ..... Gotta run. Y'all take care.

1,789 posted on 11/29/2001 2:37:28 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: WIMom
ROTFLOL! I sure wish I had time to read all that. LOLOL!
1,790 posted on 11/29/2001 2:38:49 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, your article enumerates all the things we've accomplished. We're just getting started. We've still got a lot to do and all that we accomplish is because you started this wonderful site. THANK YOU.

how many posters do we have registered? I thought I read somewhere once 60,000??If expenses are $22,000. thats 37 cents a month per person....why can't we charge a buck a month, $12.00 per year membership to support the site? I just can't imagine that a quarter a week is too much $ for anyone...

Thanks again, Jim.

1,791 posted on 11/29/2001 2:38:58 PM PST by cfrels
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To: Bob J
Arator, really, you have very little knowledge of what went on with that lawsuit, with the exception of what "heard" on the AF boards, so my suggestion is that you shut your pie whole and stick to what you know best...and that would be...

All of us can gain information about such things from only one source, and that is posts by FReeper insiders to this or other forums. Wasn't the $100000 Eschior fiasco and the subsequent departure of Clarity made public by Jim Rob in posts to FR? As I recall, that's how the AFers and the rest of us came to learn about it.

I apologize if I spoke out of turn or in error on this matter. FReeper finances are minor matter to me compared to censorship/banishments and I certainly can claim no expertese in such matters. In fact, I really could care less about what transpires at the top of the FReeper pyramid so long as I and others at the bottom are left free to post our political opinions to FR without fear of draconian censorship and/or banishment.

1,792 posted on 11/29/2001 2:40:24 PM PST by Arator
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To: sirgawain
RE: your post #80:

Selling internet ads doesn't bring much revenue. No one clicks them.

I would gladly click on every ad on every post I read if it would help FR stay afloat. Cheers, Jim and John. Thanks for this site. Bless you.

1,793 posted on 11/29/2001 2:42:03 PM PST by redhead
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To: Billie
Dittos to your comments, Billie!
1,794 posted on 11/29/2001 2:43:27 PM PST by Terry's Take
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To: Jim Robinson
Sir, you have provided a service that goes far beyond price. My admiration for what you've done here is immense, and I feel I'm getting far more than my measly little monthly donation could ever cover. If you are feeling tired, overstressed, tapped out, financially and emotionally, I could understand that. If you chose to shut it down, there would be a LOT of heartbroken people out here, and A LOT of people would hopefully do what they could to take up the slack. You've created a niche for us here, and the loss of FR would leave a big hole in our hearts and our lives. Thank you for all you've given.
1,795 posted on 11/29/2001 2:43:32 PM PST by goodieD
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To: Jim Robinson
Well I have been following this thread, and would like to know is there anything wrong going on at FreeRepublic, but can't tell from all the bashing going on here. You seem to have a dog in this fight and are respected by quite a few here, so could you please give me and others a honest view from your side of what has happened.

I posted this to Inspector Harry Callahan for his story and would like to hear your side also so those of of us that don't know what is going on could have both sides of the story, if you would please. Thank You

BigMack

1,796 posted on 11/29/2001 2:45:10 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Well, Eschoir was one of the original members here at Free Republic. As a member of the political left, he presented a dissenting view to almost everything that can be found on a conservative site. As I understand it (I wasn't a member at the time) he got rather crude with his language and got himself banned. As time went by, he registered under a plethora of fake names by using AOL email addy's. Even some of his screen names were vulgar and disgusting.

He founded a couple of Anti-FReep sites and got into some scraps with FR's pro-bono attorney, who was an active FReeper. Eschoir found out some info on one of this attorney's past cases in which the judge supposedly said that he was "morally unfit for the practice of law" or something like that, as I recall.

Well, the attorney went ballistic over it and wanted Pesky to pay dearly. So instead of just mailing a registered letter asking Pesky to cease and desist, the attorney gathered a "crack research team" and sued Pesky under a Virginia statute dealing with electronic vandalism or somesuch. What the crack research team missed, was that Pesky doesn't reside in the Commonwealth of Virginia, he only works there. LOL!!

The whole thing was moved to a Federal court and Pesky signed an agreement promising that he'd quit posting on Free Republic. Anyhoo, in the process of all of this, a heavy-hitting law firm was brought in. They were not the "crack research team" I mentioned earlier, they were just there to do the heavy lifting.

Their bill turned out to be something like SEVEN TIMES that which was originally quoted. Nobody knew of the MASSIVELY INFLATED bill except the FReeper lawyer, and it is rumored that he kept it a secret on purpose.

DISCLAIMER: The above is only my OPINION and POINT OF VIEW. If I'm in error, please feel free to correct the record.

1,797 posted on 11/29/2001 2:45:17 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: *Opus List
Marking for the Opus list ..... there's certain to be a couple.
1,798 posted on 11/29/2001 2:45:34 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Is there any truth to the rumor that the name:

Inspector Harry Callahan

is simply an anagram for

Richly charlatan persona,

or

Oral/sphincteral anarchy?

1,799 posted on 11/29/2001 2:46:20 PM PST by Silly
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To: IronJack
Thank you again.

BigMack

1,800 posted on 11/29/2001 2:46:47 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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