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Posted on 11/19/2001 2:03:57 PM PST by FF578

Has anyone noticed that the Liberal influence has spread here into Free Republic. I notice that less and less Conservatives seem to post here, and more and more Libertarians seem to be.

I get a letter from someone named NYpeanut who is mad because I posted a discussion based on the Gender Gap in voting.

I didn't make it up, there is really a huge Gender gap with Female Voters tending toward the more liberal candidate. The discussion went well without name calling, but this person seems to have taken issue to the fact that I pointed out women seem to vote more liberally than men.

All those who are newbies here are considered disruptors, and those who hold a more right-winged view than the average libertarian seem to be kicked out.

Why is this? Is this a Libertarian site now?

I have noticed more and more posters standing up for Abortion, Homosexuality, the Porn Industry and Drugs since I first came to this site back before the 2000 Election.

Are Christian Conservatives(Who make up a large part of the Republican core vote) not allowed here anymore?

Just because one holds to a higher power, and wishes to shape society in accordance with the laws of Almighty God, does not make one a Taliban Milita member.


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To: FF578
there is really a huge Gender gap with Female Voters tending toward the more liberal candidate

I'm not sure why you blame Libertarians for disagreeing with this. The Minnesota Libertarian Party ran a survey at the state fair one year and asked several hundred men and women to take a political policy quiz. When sorted by gender, women were in fact noticably more liberal, i.e. paternalistic in their political views. They liked big government better.

So actually real research by Libertarians favors your point of view that women are more socialistic than men. So why get mad at Libertarians?

121 posted on 11/19/2001 2:44:14 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: NYpeanut
well said....

...now pull my finger...c'mon...pull it...ya know ya want to...just pull it...

122 posted on 11/19/2001 2:44:46 PM PST by Khurkris
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To: beowolf
as to the appalachian snake handlers, I have two words ............... Charles Darwin
123 posted on 11/19/2001 2:45:01 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: FF578
The 60's radicals managed to change societies preceptions on right and wrong, but right and wrong have not changed.

PLease tell me you are not so stupid to think that porn did not exist before the 60's? If you honestly believe this, I have a book full of porn photos from the 1910's and '20s. You may enjoy it.

124 posted on 11/19/2001 2:45:22 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: beowolf
Yeah...everybody wants a bunch of Appalachian snake-handlers remaking America in the image of their religious beliefs.

Yep....and everybody wants a bunch of Randian/Kantian handwringers running this war...right???

Just keep your self derived morality outta our war ok???...and I'll do the same for you. So the ethos of Judeo/Christian Conservatism is best represented by Appalachin Snake Handlers?

Could I assume the best of Libertarianism is best represented by Harry Browne's cowardice? or Ayn Rand's views on the sanctity of her marriage?

Do you think the Founding Fathers were anti-Christian perhaps?..think again.

125 posted on 11/19/2001 2:45:28 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: FF578
This is a standard complaint that is posted at least once every two or three months. It's a special with the "Kvetch of the Month Club." Of course, there's some substance to it. Libertarians have asserted themselves more recently, perhaps because the last election was so klugey. The level of conflict appears to have escalated too; seldom do disagreements get resolved in any kind of amicable fashion anymore. And irrelevant, inane postings seem to be proliferating at the expense of reasoned political discourse. Pregnant Barbies and Expando-Jeans for Men seem the order of the day, while informed analysis of post-Taliban Afghanistan goes begging.

However, FR seems to be remarkably homeostatic. Given enough time, it always seems to restore itself to normalcy.

But every swing of the pendulum seems to get a little longer ...

126 posted on 11/19/2001 2:45:31 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Gracey
And you have the balls to say this when you've been on here since Nov 13, 2001, honey?

The audacity is rather breathtaking, isn't it?!-)

127 posted on 11/19/2001 2:45:33 PM PST by beowolf
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To: thusevertotyrants
you wrote: someone needs to protect the unprotected? so the government is to be our caretaker? Now who is the liberal sorry pal - I choose freedom, and the responsibility it entails... Laws are in place to allow us all to live and pursue what ever we want out of life, so long as your pursuits don't infringe on the same rights of others have. I gave an example of your neighbor wanting to kill their "born" children. How about your neighbor wanting to kill you? There is a point when the law protects you regardless of what your neighbor may think is THEIR right. An unborn child desperately need someone to protect them. Oh! and your next argument, when does life begin. At conception. 26 chrosomes joined with 26 chrosomes (one egg-one sperm)= a human being (temporarily in developement)
128 posted on 11/19/2001 2:45:54 PM PST by phil1750
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To: FF578
Your article has a serious illogical statement. You decry the increase of liberal posts and libertarian posters. These two items while tied together by you are not related. The fact that you put them together leads me to question the knowledge and conclusions behind the rest of your post.
129 posted on 11/19/2001 2:46:01 PM PST by breakem
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To: oldvike
What? Helloo? (echo, echo, echo . . .)
130 posted on 11/19/2001 2:46:25 PM PST by KillerWabbit
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To: FF578
........What has happened to Free Republic......

A good question you have posed.

Now the better question is......

What would you like to see done about it or what would you do about the perceived problem(s)?

However, maybe you would like to take your complaint over to this thread of Mr. Robinson's from a few days ago and blast away.......


131 posted on 11/19/2001 2:47:09 PM PST by deport
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
What happens when liars and frauds with power, risk losing that power because of their misdeeds?

They pass anti-freedom unconstitutional anti bill-of-rights legislation, that can be used to deprive liberty loving Americans of their freedom, and the ability to challenge the status quo.

132 posted on 11/19/2001 2:47:13 PM PST by KeepTheEdge
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To: Alberta's Child
Just out of curiosity: Why is it that when female voters tend to vote Democratic the Republicans have a "gender gap problem," but when male voters tend to vote Republican (overwhelmingly, in the case of white males) nobody seems to think the Democrats have the same problem?

The answer is in two parts. Firstly, "teh gender gap" is a value-free term, which indicates a discrepancy of behaviours. Secondly, for someone who is openly partisan, any non-favorable voting behavior is a "problem" that he or she has to address in the next (and all) exlections.

The key word is openly partisan. For as long as the person does not perport to be scientific or implementing an inquiry, there is no conflict, moral or otherwise.

133 posted on 11/19/2001 2:47:19 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: wardaddy
Do you think the Founding Fathers were anti-Christian perhaps?..think again.

Not anti-Christian, religous neutral more like.
134 posted on 11/19/2001 2:47:19 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
I see. So if I say I think Harry Potter is too extreme for seven-year-olds, I am equal to blood-thirsty, murdering, savage terrorists. I just wanted to get that straight.

And thanks for proving my point.

135 posted on 11/19/2001 2:47:22 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: FF578
This BEFORE I read the thread and I'm sure there will be something to follow AFTER I read it.

Good post! Needs to be discussed.

136 posted on 11/19/2001 2:47:24 PM PST by mercy
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To: beowolf
I count 130 posts and so far nobody's said ALL YOUR BASE...

...but then why would they?

137 posted on 11/19/2001 2:47:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: CJ Wolf
" WE " are NOT all Libertarians here ! Most people aren't; the Libertarians just post mre threads, and shout more. : - )
138 posted on 11/19/2001 2:47:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: real saxophonist
Get the Burquas, you Taliban!

I think you were joking, right?

Burqa!
Burqa Burqa Bo Burqa
Banana Fanna Fo Firqa
Fe Fi Mo Mirqa
Burqa

139 posted on 11/19/2001 2:48:07 PM PST by testforecho
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To: FF578
I get a letter from someone named NYpeanut who is mad because I posted a discussion based on the Gender Gap in voting.

Of course, you had to title it What is Wrong with Female Voters? - and there are plenty of good conservative women who vote just fine, thank you, including my wife. So maybe if you didn't generalize so much, you'd catch less flack.

140 posted on 11/19/2001 2:48:09 PM PST by dirtboy
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