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ABRAHAM LINCOLN: AMERICA’S GREATEST WAR CRIMINAL
Southern Caucus ^ | ? | Ron Holland

Posted on 11/19/2001 6:28:43 AM PST by tberry

ABRAHAM LINCOLN: AMERICA’S GREATEST WAR CRIMINAL

By Ron Holland

from Southern Caucus http://www.southerncaucus.org

Abraham Lincoln should without a doubt be named America’s greatest war criminal. His war of invasion not only killed over 600,000 innocent Americans but it was obvious from his earlier speeches that he had previously advocated the prevalent constitutional right of democratic, state by state secession. Lincoln’s War also effectively overthrew the existing decentralized, limited federal government that had existed and governed well in the US since established by America’s founding fathers. Lincoln bastardized a respected federal government with limited powers into a dictatorial, uncontrollable Washington federal empire.

Because of Lincoln, the former American constitutional republic fell from a dream of liberty and limited government into the nightmare big government we have today without the earlier checks and balances of state sovereignty. After Lincoln, In foreign policy, the US forgot George Washington’s warning about neutrality and we became an aggressive military abroad until today we have troops defending the Washington Empire in over 144 nations around the world.

The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connections as possible. It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances, with any portion of the foreign world.—George Washington

Lincoln shares his war criminal actions with other well know tyrants that waged war on their own people. History shows us that politicians make war against their own citizens even more than against foreign nations. The reasons are often to establish and preserve their power base, as was the case in the Russian Revolution and the Mao Revolution. For others, like Hitler, it was misguided super patriotism and racism that brought death to tens of millions. Sadly, in the case of Abraham Lincoln’s war against the Confederacy and Southern civilians, it was all for money, company profits and government tariff revenues. A simple case of political pay back in return for the Northeastern manufacturing interests that supported the Republican Party and his campaign for the presidency. Early in his career, Abraham Lincoln was an honorable statesman who let election year politics and the special interests supporting his presidential campaign corrupt a once great man. He knew what he was doing was wrong and unconstitutional but succumbed, as in the case of many modern day politicians, to the allure of money, power and ego.

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right - a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit. -- Abraham Lincoln January 12, 1848

This quote above shows Lincoln as a statesman 12 years before he plunged the United States into its most disastrous war. Suffering a death toll so high in death rates as a percentage of total population, his act of carnage ranks with the political genocides of Stalin, Lenin and Mao during their communist revolutions. A death toll so great that it dwarfs the American deaths in all of our many declared and undeclared wars before and since this American holocaust of death and destruction.

From the following quote you can see that later Lincoln radically adjusted his rhetoric to meet the needs and demands of his business establishment supporters and financial supporters.

No state, upon its own mere motion, can lawfully get out of the Union. Plainly, the central idea of secession, is the essence of anarchy. --Abraham Lincoln

Why the complete change in rhetoric and actions? Simple, to preserve high tariffs and corporate profits for the Northeastern business establishment. Lincoln who earlier in his career had obviously favored the right of peaceful secession, provoked a war that killed 600,000 Americans, as a pay back to the eastern manufacturing establishment that bankrolled his presidential campaign. These special interests would have suffered serious financial loss if a low tariff Confederate States of America were allowed to peacefully, democratically and constitutionally secede from the United States in lawful state constitutional conventions of secession which were identical to the ratification conventions when they had joined the Union. Thus the real reasons for the death and destruction of Lincoln’s War were covered up and hidden by historians who continue, even today, to deny the truth and hide the ultimate costs of Lincoln’s American holocaust. While Lincoln’s death toll is small in comparison to total deaths by Mao, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler, there are many similarities between these men. In the Russian Civil War, from 1917 - 1922 around 9 million died under Lenin and we must add another 20 million under Stalin from 1929 to 1939. The Mao communist regime in China killed 44 to 70 million Chinese from 1949 – 1975.

Still the US constitutional republic, as established by our founding fathers, was in effect destroyed by Lincoln’s unconstitutional war just as surely as Mao and Lenin over threw the existing Chinese and Russian governments. The multitude of Lincoln apologists would say that this is just another Confederate argument certainly not accepted by most historians. I might counter that the opinions and books of these "so called" establishment historians who live off my tax dollars through government funding at liberal controlled universities and think tanks are prejudiced towards Lincoln and Washington DC. They are no different from the official government historians in China, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Their job is to lie to the American people and cover up a true and honest account of our history in order to support the government and political system in power.

History shows us that a fair and honest discussion of Lincoln’s wartime actions will not be possible as long as the Washington political establishment remains in power. Since Lincoln, the Washington Empire has reigned supreme and omnipotent and for this reason, establishment historians have never honestly debated the Lincoln war crimes.

Consider this. Was a fair and honest account of Lenin or Stalin written and published during the Soviet Communist regime? Of course not. Could a less than worshipful history of Hitler’s Third Reich have been published until after 1945? No! Even today, with only nominal communist control of China, an honest appraisal of Mao’s revolution and crimes against the Chinese people still is not possible. It is no different today in the United States than it is in Red China or was in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Just as Lenin’s statue could not be toppled in Red Square until after the fall of the Soviet Communist government, or the truth about Hitler couldn’t be told until after defeat of Nazi Germany, it is the same here in the United States. It is my hope that someday, in the not too distant future, a true account of the war crimes of Lincoln will be discussed, debated and even acknowledged. The Lincoln Memorial should be remodeled to show the horrors of "Lincoln the War Criminal" with the opportunity for all to visit Washington and learn how war crimes, genocide and holocaust are not just crimes that foreign politicians commit. Government and political tyranny can and has happened here just like in Germany, China and the Soviet Union and that through education and honest history, it will never happen here again.

In the future, may we have the opportunity to learn about the Nazi holocaust at the United States National Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington and then have the chance to visit the Lincoln War Crimes and American Holocaust Museum a few blocks away. One will state for all the world that NEVER AGAIN will a tyrant or government be allowed to target, exterminate and destroy an ethnic, racial or religious minority. The other will pledge NEVER AGAIN in America will we allow a president or government to make unconstitutional war against Sovereign states or their citizens and then cover up the truth up for over 145 years.

We should start today with an honest appraisal of what Lincoln really did to Dixie, how our black and white innocent noncombatants suffered under his total war policy against civilians. Finally we should address the cost in lives, lost liberty and federal taxes the citizens of the US have had to endure because our limited constitutional republic was destroyed.

Abraham Lincoln was a great man, a smart politician and he could have been an excellent president, had he considered the short-term costs of his high tariff and the long time price every American had to pay for his war of invasion. It is time to stop worshipping Lincoln and educate the public about the war crimes he committed against the citizens of the Southern States so this WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN


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KEYWORDS: abelincoln; dixie; dixielist; goebbels; mediawingofthednc; presidents; prozacchewables; wot
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To: stainlessbanner
"I myself have seen in Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi, hundreds and thousands of women and children fleeing from your armies and desperadoes, hungry and with bleeding feet. In Memphis, Vicksburg, and Mississippi, we fed thousands upon thousands of the families of rebel soldiers left on our hands, and whom we could not see starve. Now that war comes home to you, you feel very different. You deprecate its horrors, but did not feel them when you sent car-loads of soldiers and ammunition, and moulded shells and shot, to carry war into Kentucky and Tennessee, to desolate the homes of hundreds and thousands of good people who only asked to live in peace at their old homes and under the Government of their inheritance." - William T. Sherman 1864

What goes around comes around, I guess.

341 posted on 11/21/2001 11:18:10 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: F.J. Mitchell
We all lost,...

We? You got a mouse in your pocket?

...it is just that fools from what was called the winning side (the North) are too busy smugly patting themselves on the back...

We haven't been patting ourselves on the back over the Civil War except when you guys bring it up. That was 140 years ago. We've been too busy patting ourselves on the back for WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and the Gulf War (and thanking God).

...to notice their ass is missing.

I wonder if Germany, China, Russia, North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan thinks our ass is missing. This nation was 100 times freer after 1865 than before.

Ignorance being bliss, it is unlikely they will ever notice the loss.

There's no loss to notice.

342 posted on 11/21/2001 11:23:51 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
"I wonder if Germany, China, Russia, North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan thinks our ass is missing."

And Japan. Can't forget Japan.

343 posted on 11/21/2001 11:28:29 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: stainlessbanner
War is hell. Don't start something you can't finish. Maybe you'll learn from the Taliwackers. LOL
344 posted on 11/21/2001 11:31:45 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
If you view the main FreeRepublic page, you will find the following comment, "[w]e're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption ..."

Allowing the ownership of other human beings based solely on the circumstances of their birth is political fraud and corruption. Thank God for Lincoln, the Radical Republicans, and the North's victory.

345 posted on 11/21/2001 11:35:40 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Allowing the ownership of other human beings based solely on the circumstances of their birth is political fraud and corruption. Thank God for Lincoln, the Radical Republicans, and the North's victory.

Allowing what would be called at best an apartheid supporter to run ramshod all over the Constitution of the United StateS for whatever purpose, only to bring slavery to the forefront when he had lost support everywhere else, is not only political fraud and corruption, it's unconstitutional. Go back to your little lincoln statue and continue worshipping.

You yanks are worse than the Taliban with your 'Lincoln is our Savior' mantra. Try reading both sides of the issue. I have. It was shoved down my throat for 17 years in schools and college, believing it to be the right up there with the Holy Word of God(or at least that's what I was told). Then I actually read the other side, yes there is one. Try it. You'd be amazed at what you might see

346 posted on 11/21/2001 11:46:36 AM PST by billbears
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To: billbears
Allowing what would be called at best an apartheid supporter...

And you accuse us of intolerant one-sided bias? A case of the pot calling the kettle 'grimey arse', IMHO of course.

And I really do have a bust of Lincoln on my desk. It's one of those brass jobs that they sell in D.C.

347 posted on 11/21/2001 11:54:06 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: billbears
Allowing what would be called at best an apartheid supporter to run ramshod all over the Constitution of the United StateS for whatever purpose, only to bring slavery to the forefront when he had lost support everywhere else,...

Your peerless Confederate leaders brought slavery to the forefront. Read South Carolina's Declaration of Secession.

...is not only political fraud and corruption, it's unconstitutional. Go back to your little lincoln statue and continue worshipping.

I bet you worship your Davis statue more than I worship my Lincoln statue. LOL The only time I talk up Lincoln is when you guys get provocative.

You yanks are worse than the Taliban with your 'Lincoln is our Savior' mantra.

Thank God for Lincoln! LOL

Try reading both sides of the issue. I have. It was shoved down my throat for 17 years in schools and college, believing it to be the right up there with the Holy Word of God(or at least that's what I was told).

You poor boy. When I was in school and college, we didn't really spend that much time on it. There is 10,000 years of recorded history, you know.

Then I actually read the other side, yes there is one. Try it. You'd be amazed at what you might see

I've heard the other side on this site from you guys for the last 11 months. I'm not impressed with anything you've had to say. You never speak of how terrible it would be to be owned by someone else and have to live in a barn with 50 other men for the rest of your life, never being able to enjoy the fruits of your labor. You never speak of how bad it would be to have your wife and daughters used by the slaveowners and his sons. All you speak of is losing your Constitutional right to filthy lucre from the cash cow of slavery.

348 posted on 11/21/2001 12:01:10 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: F.J. Mitchell
You must have attended public (government) schools.
349 posted on 11/21/2001 12:59:05 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: billbears
Allowing what would be called at best an apartheid supporter to run ramshod all over the Constitution of the United StateS for whatever purpose, only to bring slavery to the forefront when he had lost support everywhere else, is not only political fraud and corruption, it's unconstitutional. Go back to your little lincoln statue and continue worshipping.

See how these guys set you up?

Abraham Lincoln:

"I confess that I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes and unwarranted toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair for you to assume, that I have no such interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the Constitution and the Union."

8/24/54

"If A can prove, however conclusively, that he may, of right, enslave B. -- why not B. snatch the same argument, and prove equally, that he may enslave A.? --

You say A. is a white, and B. is black. It is --color--, then; the lighter, having the right to enslave the darker? Take care. By this rule, you are to be the slave to the first man you meet, with a fairer skin than your own.

You do not mean color exactly? -- You mean the whites are --intellectually-- the superiors of the blacks, and therefore, have the right to enslave them? Take care again. By this rule, you are to be slave to the first man you meet, with an intellect superior to your own.

But, say you, it is a question of --interest--; and, if you can make it your --interest--, you have the right to enslave another. Very well. And if he can make it his interst, he has the right to enslave you."

1854

"I will say here, while upon this subject, that I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and the black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which in my judgment will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong, having the superior position. I have never said anything to the contrary, but I hold that notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. [Loud cheers.] I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects---certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man."

August, 1858

"I do not expect the Union to be dissolved--I do not expect the house to fall--But I do expect it will cease to be divided.

Either the opponents of slavery, will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is the course of ultimate extinctioon; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all the States, old as well as new--North as well as South.

Have we no tendency towards the latter condition?"

1858

"The principles of Jefferson are the definitions and axioms of free society. And yet they are denied, and evaded, with no small show of success. One dashingly calls them "glittering generalities"; another bluntly calls them "self evident lies"; and still others insidiously argue that they only apply to "superior races." These expressions, differing in form, are identical in object and effect. -- the supplanting the principles of free government, and restoring those of classification, caste, and legitimacy. They would delight a convocation of crowned heads, plotting against the people. They are the van-guard -- the miners and sappers -- of returning despotism. We must repulse them, or they will subjugate us. This is a world of compensations; and he that would -be- no slave, must consent to --have-- no slave. Those that deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves, and under a just God cannot long retain it."

3/1/59

"But to be plain, you are dissatisfied with me about the negro. Quite likely there is a difference of opinion between you and myself upon that subject. I certainly wish that all men could be free, while I suppose that you do not.

...You say you will not fight to free negroes. Some of them seem willing to fight for you; but no matter. Fight you then, exclusively to save the Union... negroes, like other people act upon motives. Why should they do anything for us if we will do nothing for them? If they stake their lives for us, they must be prompted by the strongest motive--even the promise of freedom. And the promise, being made, must be kept....peace does not appear as distant as it did. I hope it will come soon, and come to stay; and so come as to worth the keeping in all future time. It will have then been proved that, among free men, there can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet; and that they who take such appeal are sure to lose their case, and pay the cost. And then, there will be some black men, who can remember that, with silent tongue, and clenched teeth, and steady eye, and well-poised bayonet they have helped mankind on to this great consumation; while, I fear, there will be some white ones, unable to forget that, with malignant heart, and deceitful speech, have strove to hinder it. Still let us not be over-sanguine of a speedy final triumph. Let us be quite sober. Let us dilligently apply the means, never doubting that a just God, in his own good time, will give us the rightful result."

8/23/63

"I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong. I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel....

I add a word which was not in the verbal conversation. In telling this tale I attempt no compliment to my own sagacity. I claim not to have controlled events, but confess plainly that events have controlled me. Now, at the end of three years struggle the Nation's condition is not what either party, or any man devised, or expected. God alone can claim it. Whither it is tending seems plain. If God now wills the removal of a great wrong, and wills also that we of the North as well as you of the South, shall pay for our complicity in that wrong, impartial history will find therein new cause to attest and revere the justice and goodness of God."

4/4/64

"it is also unsatisfactory to some that the elective franchise is not given to the colored man. I would myself prefer that it were now conferred on the very intelligent, and on those who serve our cause as soldiers."

April 11, 1865

Also consider:

"After the interview was over, Douglass left the White House with a growing respect for Lincoln. He was "the first great man that I talked with in the United States freely," Douglass said later, "who in no single instance reminded me of the difference between himself and myself, of the difference of color." --"With Malice Towards None, p. 357 by Stephen Oates.

"Lincoln had Douglass shown in at once. "Here is my friend Douglass," the President announced when Douglass entered the room. "I am glad to see you," Lincoln told him. "I saw you in the crowd today, listening to my address." He added, "there is no man in the country whose opinion I value more than yours. I want to know hat you think of it." Douglass said he was impressed: he thought it "a sacred effort." "I am glad you liked it." Lincoln said, and he watched as Douglass passed down the [receiving] line. It was the first inaugural reception in the history of the Republic in which an American President had greeted a free black man and solicited his opinion."

Ibid., p. 412

Other sources: "Abraham Lincoln, Mystic Chords of Memory" published by the Book of the Month Club, 1984

and:

"Lincoln, Speeches and Writings, 1859-65, Libray of the Americas, Don E. Fehrenbacher, ed. 1989

"apartheid supporter"?

Something is driving the agenda of the neo-cons, and it ain't honesty.

Walt

350 posted on 11/21/2001 1:10:58 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: Non-Sequitur
Yes, I have read the site previously, but thanks for the link.

Grant's own recorded words state In a March 12, 1859 letter to his father that Julia was unable to do without her slaves. He wrote, "Julia and the children are well. They will not make a visit to Kentucky now. .. with four children she could not go without a servant and she was afraid that landing so often as she would have to do in free states, she might have some trouble" (sure wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone just to set a soul free..poor thing)

let's remember, Grant says "I never was an abolitionist, not even what could be called anti-slavery."

Julia's own records state the slaves were not freed until December of 85, this according to her own memoirs. Everything contradictory is second hand. I will take them at their word. Re-writing history is bad enough as it is.

351 posted on 11/21/2001 2:19:06 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: WhiskeyPapa
For every cut & paste you do, there is always another side.
If you consider Lincoln jumped on the anti-slavery bandwagon as a war measure; a means to turn the tide of the war, his comments above must match his political strategy.

He's a politician, too. There will always be conflicting statements as he changes viewpoints to reflect his political supporters.

However one views his comments, judge the man by his actions: 600,000 American lives.

352 posted on 11/21/2001 6:13:39 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Do you really think there is enough of a Southern identity that a new secessionist movement could succeed? I doubt it. People move around too much. I myself have lived in four states for substantial periods of time, and currently live in the District of Columbia. I have no strong emotional ties to any of them. I think of myself as an American. I suspect most Southerners do as well. Look to your left and right: there are "Yanks" all around. And what ideology would you rally around? Surely not slavery. Even the most recalcitrant Rebel recognizes that slavery was a dumb idea, a wicked idea, and ultimately self-defeating.
355 posted on 11/21/2001 6:29:21 PM PST by maro
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To: maro
Naw....I don't believe secession is the right thing to do - it's a little extreme. Although, I firmly believe in the right to do so if required; our founding fathers saw to that. I think the states are so dependent on federal money, protection, etc. that it would nearly impossible to give everything up and start all over. Also, Americans have gotten too fat and lazy to care about rights or liberty. They have their subsized home, 2.2 kids, an SUV, and the kids play soccer. Anway, Lincoln set the precedent - nobody seceeds peacefully.

I doubt you would get any argument from most Southerners that slavery is a bad idea; certainly not a rallying point for the next revolution! Perhaps in the future, the division lines will not be about geography such as north and south, but along political lines, financial means, religious fanatics, or cultural differences.

356 posted on 11/21/2001 6:51:38 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: bluecollarman
That's BS, Grant himself asserted that his wife was frail and just needed help. It was not for a noble cause he kept slaves. Of course the weakest possible reason was that freeing them would have cost him money, as you suggested. That was very shameful conduct for the great Northern General don't ya think?

Grant was known as a softy when it came to scarring, abusing, or disfiguring slaves. He also didn't make all that much money, even as a general.

If you thought was bad, you must southern slave owners were truly garbage. Good for you. Married to a southern woman, Grant was much more southern than many think.

357 posted on 11/21/2001 6:52:34 PM PST by Elihu Burritt
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To: bluecollarman
Julia's own records state the slaves were not freed until December of 85, this according to her own memoirs. Everything contradictory is second hand.

Julia Grant's memoirs were written over 20 years after the war while sources of the period indicate otherwise. Grant's letters indicate that all slaves were freed before then. There are no indications that she was accompanied by any of the slaves on any of her trips to Grant's headquarters after 1863. In her home state of Missouri the state constitution was amended to end slavery in January 1865. Following the war she lived in D.C. with Grant where slave ownership was illegal. How could she have owned them as late as December 1865? None of the evidence other than her memoirs supports that. much earlier than that.

358 posted on 11/22/2001 2:18:07 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner
For every cut & paste you do, there is always another side.

You'll look less foolish if you can post such.

If you consider Lincoln jumped on the anti-slavery bandwagon as a war measure; a means to turn the tide of the war, his comments above must match his political strategy.

Lincoln made plain well before the war, as my previous note shows, that slavery was a "continual torment" to him. He opposed slavery throughout his whole life.

Now, I don't know you, and it's easy to jump people online. But consider this text:

"It is useful when thinking about Abraham Lincoln's attitudes toward slavery and Blacks to remember that Lincoln was a Southerner born in a slave state to parents born and raised in slave states. His family shared some of their culture's bias toward individual Blacks, but opposed the institution of slavery. This background and the early move of the family to a free state shaped Lincoln's attitudes early in his adult life. Now consider several facts about Lincoln's political career:

1. While Lincoln was building political strength in local Illinois politics, he opposed the war with Mexico as inexpedient for several reasons, including that it was waged to increase the power of slave states in the institutions of Federal government.

2. During Lincoln's first term as U.S. congressman from Illinois in the late 1840's, he continued to criticize the Mexican war and worked out a bill (never introduced) calling for a referendum in the District of Columbia designed to free the slaves in that Federal enclave and compensate their owners.

3. His reentry into national politics in 1854 was clearly for the purpose of opposing the expansion of slavery into the territories under the provisions of the Kansas-Nebraska Act. He had his heart and soul involved with the idea of gradual emancipation to bring the fullest meaning to the words of Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal.

4. From 1854 to his nomination for the presidency in 1860, as James McPherson noted in his DRAWN WITH THE SWORD, "the dominant, unifying theme of Lincoln's career was opposition to the expansion of slavery as a vital first step toward placing it in the course of ultimate extinction." In those years he gave approximately 175 political speeches. McPherson notes that the "central message of these speeches showed Lincoln to be a "one-issue" man - the issue being slavery." Thus, Lincoln's nomination to the presidency was based on a principled opposition to slavery on moral grounds, and that position was clear to voters both in the South and the North.

5. In his early speeches and actions as president-elect and president, he was clear in his opinion that he had no legal authority to interfere with slavery in the slave states. However, he was persistent and consistent in his efforts to encourage and aid voluntary emancipation in the loyal Border States, territories and the District of Columbia. These efforts predated his publication of the Preliminary Emancipation Proclamation.

In summary, I think one can safely say that Lincoln was clearly a gradual abolitionist from the beginning of his political career."

-From the AOL ACW area.

Now, unless you want to look completely foolish, and mute anything positive you -did- have to say, you need to lay off Abraham Lincoln, because there is no doubt that he was a great and good man.

Walt

359 posted on 11/22/2001 3:51:19 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: tberry
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360 posted on 11/22/2001 4:12:57 AM PST by nancetc
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