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To: WhiskeyPapa
For every cut & paste you do, there is always another side.
If you consider Lincoln jumped on the anti-slavery bandwagon as a war measure; a means to turn the tide of the war, his comments above must match his political strategy.

He's a politician, too. There will always be conflicting statements as he changes viewpoints to reflect his political supporters.

However one views his comments, judge the man by his actions: 600,000 American lives.

352 posted on 11/21/2001 6:13:39 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
For every cut & paste you do, there is always another side.

You'll look less foolish if you can post such.

If you consider Lincoln jumped on the anti-slavery bandwagon as a war measure; a means to turn the tide of the war, his comments above must match his political strategy.

Lincoln made plain well before the war, as my previous note shows, that slavery was a "continual torment" to him. He opposed slavery throughout his whole life.

Now, I don't know you, and it's easy to jump people online. But consider this text:

"It is useful when thinking about Abraham Lincoln's attitudes toward slavery and Blacks to remember that Lincoln was a Southerner born in a slave state to parents born and raised in slave states. His family shared some of their culture's bias toward individual Blacks, but opposed the institution of slavery. This background and the early move of the family to a free state shaped Lincoln's attitudes early in his adult life. Now consider several facts about Lincoln's political career:

1. While Lincoln was building political strength in local Illinois politics, he opposed the war with Mexico as inexpedient for several reasons, including that it was waged to increase the power of slave states in the institutions of Federal government.

2. During Lincoln's first term as U.S. congressman from Illinois in the late 1840's, he continued to criticize the Mexican war and worked out a bill (never introduced) calling for a referendum in the District of Columbia designed to free the slaves in that Federal enclave and compensate their owners.

3. His reentry into national politics in 1854 was clearly for the purpose of opposing the expansion of slavery into the territories under the provisions of the Kansas-Nebraska Act. He had his heart and soul involved with the idea of gradual emancipation to bring the fullest meaning to the words of Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal.

4. From 1854 to his nomination for the presidency in 1860, as James McPherson noted in his DRAWN WITH THE SWORD, "the dominant, unifying theme of Lincoln's career was opposition to the expansion of slavery as a vital first step toward placing it in the course of ultimate extinction." In those years he gave approximately 175 political speeches. McPherson notes that the "central message of these speeches showed Lincoln to be a "one-issue" man - the issue being slavery." Thus, Lincoln's nomination to the presidency was based on a principled opposition to slavery on moral grounds, and that position was clear to voters both in the South and the North.

5. In his early speeches and actions as president-elect and president, he was clear in his opinion that he had no legal authority to interfere with slavery in the slave states. However, he was persistent and consistent in his efforts to encourage and aid voluntary emancipation in the loyal Border States, territories and the District of Columbia. These efforts predated his publication of the Preliminary Emancipation Proclamation.

In summary, I think one can safely say that Lincoln was clearly a gradual abolitionist from the beginning of his political career."

-From the AOL ACW area.

Now, unless you want to look completely foolish, and mute anything positive you -did- have to say, you need to lay off Abraham Lincoln, because there is no doubt that he was a great and good man.

Walt

359 posted on 11/22/2001 3:51:19 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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