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Passenger Plane Crash in Queens NYC!
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Posted on 11/12/2001 5:30:38 AM PST by Attila_the_Hun

AA Passenger plane has crashed in Queens, live video on Fox News... Developing!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aaflight587; flight587; harbour
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To: Wyatt's Torch
a prayer of safety for Wyatt!
341 posted on 11/12/2001 6:28:41 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: 1 FELLOW FREEPER
Popping noise can indicate compressor stall in the engine.

Could mean a lot of things. Do not presume explosions.

I was on an MD-88 on a take off roll in Greenville, SC when the port engine went pop-pop-pop, bang bang bang. Scared the crap out of all of us. Seems a strong cross wind contributed to it, according to the pilot. He tried the same runway one more time (with cross wind, but longer length). Same result, not as bad. Then he changed runways without incident. Some fun.

342 posted on 11/12/2001 6:29:01 AM PST by Blueflag
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To: areafiftyone
Maybe you should consider Amtrak's Autotrain. Drive to Lorton, VA, south of DC, let them load up your car, and sleep overnight in comfort with arrival the next day in Sanford, FL, near Orlando.
343 posted on 11/12/2001 6:29:33 AM PST by Andrew Byler
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To: GOPJ
"A FOX eyewitness said parts of the plane were falling before it hit. Does this sound like an explosion? "

Every plane I've ever piloted never came apart in flight!

This has all the earmarks of a terrorist bombing!

WE ARE AT WAR!

DETAIN ALL ARABS IN THIS COUNTRY! DEPORT THEM IMMEDIATELY!

WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?????

NeverGore

344 posted on 11/12/2001 6:29:46 AM PST by nevergore
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To: MomwithHope
Now she says 129th street, and the rest of the crash is on 131st st.
345 posted on 11/12/2001 6:30:14 AM PST by MomwithHope
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To: GOPJ
"A FOX eyewitness said parts of the plane were falling before it hit. Does this sound like an explosion? "

Every plane I've ever piloted never came apart in flight!

This has all the earmarks of a terrorist bombing!

WE ARE AT WAR!

DETAIN ALL ARABS IN THIS COUNTRY ON VISAS! DEPORT THEM IMMEDIATELY!

WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE?????

NeverGore

346 posted on 11/12/2001 6:30:36 AM PST by nevergore
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To: gopwhit
REMEMBER THE POST someone caught from a person named WHITEHAIR?
The message was a multible post on DU.com to various left wing groups about the next target being an airport that was named after a man that lived there? Kennedy? Young Kennedy?
The FBI was notified of the DU. com message, because the posts was onlt there for a few minutes then was gone.They set security to Reagan airport, but maybe the message was for Kennedy!
347 posted on 11/12/2001 6:30:41 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: matamoros
You don't need a stinger to bring down a jet like that. Put about ten Arabs on a rooftop with 30-06 rifles and they can shoot the engine right off a jet easily. Just one little bullet into those GE turbines, and the blades shatter all over. Then down it all comes. Just like that.

Hmmm...overcoming very stiff competition, I think we have a winner for "stupidest post in this thread so far."

One of the lessons of warfare is that it is infinitely harder to hit an airplane in the air with hand-aimed gunnery(no use of radar, automation) than you think.

Those planes flying over aren't as low as they look. The idea of someone being able to hit a specific part of a flying airliner with a rifle is simply comical.

348 posted on 11/12/2001 6:30:41 AM PST by John H K
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To: Attila_the_Hun
Go back and look at the earlier postings. It is full on misinformation, rumor, speculation, etc. It would be nice if people would be a little slower posting so they could get better information. I realize some of the errors are from the national media, but some are pure speculation based upon other crashes.
349 posted on 11/12/2001 6:31:08 AM PST by Cannon6
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To: Silas
"WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU SHEEPLE TO GET IT? IT IS 100% OBVIOUS THAT THIS WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK. IT IS EQUALLY OBVIOUS THAT THE GOV/MEDIA COMPLEX FOR SOME REASON THINKS IT IS BEST NOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS."

I've said the same about ham sandwiches. For years! Momma Cass was MURDERED!

The GOV/MEDIA complex has also been silent on THIS HORRIBLE HOG CONSPIRACY!

WHY THE SILENCE ABOUT THIS PORCINE KILLER!!!!!

WHAT DO THEY NOT WANT US TO KNOW??!!

350 posted on 11/12/2001 6:31:10 AM PST by Harp
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To: gopwhit
Eyewitness on Fox:

Wing and "propellor" caught fire before crash ("Propellor" - LOL - that's one problem with eyewitness reports).

At least eight houses in 130s on fire, smoke was black, then white.

Wing landed at a gas station on 129th street.

351 posted on 11/12/2001 6:31:12 AM PST by N00dleN0gg1n
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To: michigander
8 homes hit....
352 posted on 11/12/2001 6:31:23 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: joathome
Any kind of bomb is a possibility.

A bomb with a barometric trigger would be more likely. It could be set to go off a few thousand feet above ground level, this ensuring the plane would go down in a populated area.

353 posted on 11/12/2001 6:31:38 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: nevergore
I don't know, but if my wife's Carribbean vacation gets cancelled because of terrs, I won't worry about the "Arab" problem much longer in this country. She'll go off the deep end and go full auto.
354 posted on 11/12/2001 6:31:43 AM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Matchett-PI
07:25 PST NEW YORK (AP) --

An American Airlines jetliner on its way to the Dominican Republic crashed moments after takeoff Monday in a residential neighborhood five miles from Kennedy Airport, authorities said. There was no immediate word on deaths or injuries.

Bill Schumann of the Federal Aviation Administration said there was no immediate indication of what caused the crash, which came two months after two hijacked airliners brought down the World Trade Center.

All metropolitan area airports -- Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark, N.J. -- were closed after the crash, which took place in the Rockaway section of Queens. All bridges and tunnels into the city were closed except to emergency vehicles.

Flight 587, an Airbus A300 that can hold 275 passengers, went down shortly after 9 a.m in the waterfront neighborhood 15 miles from Manhattan, setting buildings on fire. A plume of thick, black smoke could be seen miles away. There was no immediate word on the number of people aboard the plane.

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said intelligence agencies, the FBI and the Federal Aviation Administration were reviewing all recent intelligence for any signs that terrorism was involved, but an hour after the crash there was no evidence pointing to an attack.

"They are comparing information to see if it provides any insight into what transpired. At this point, there's no indication of a terrorist attack, but it certainly can't be ruled out in the current environment," the official said.

Mayor Rudolph Giuliani canceled his morning events and headed to the scene.

Planes were being diverted to other airports, and Delta Air Lines spokeswoman Peggy Estes said the airline was working to account for all its planes.

The plane had been scheduled to leave at 8 a.m. and arrive in Santo Domingo at 12:48 p.m.

One witness reported debris falling from sky and told the Fox News Channel four homes were on fire.

"All of the sudden, I see an engine fall off, and it went to the side, and in 10, 15 seconds it went down," witness Kevin O'Rourke told WABC-TV. "An engine fell off."

Witness Phyllis Paul heard the engine. "It was very, very loud. Because of what happened Sept. 11, it gave me a chill," she told CNN. "It was getting louder and louder and I looked out the window. I saw a piece of metal falling from the sky."

The World Trade Center was destroyed by two Boeing 767s hijacked out of Boston's Logan Airport. One of the planes was operated by American, the other by United.

355 posted on 11/12/2001 6:32:12 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: lds23
Amen! FR is a fabulous forum for breaking news and I even appreciate the speculation that goes along with it. On the 11th, just after the second plane crashed into the WTC, one perceptive poster wrote "Osama Bin Laden". In retrospect, that post was incredibly chilling and oh, so accurate.

My prayers go out to all the families that will be affected by today's tragedy.

356 posted on 11/12/2001 6:32:29 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Dirk McQuickly
You can't count on the train being safer. If this is a terrorist attack, it may be another attempt to disrupt the public's faith in air travel. So a logical extension would be to eventually attack other modes. Penn Station is a huge target, probably the most disruptive single-target to NYC.

How many flights have taken off since 9/11, tons. So the odds of you dying in air travel are still astronomically small.

357 posted on 11/12/2001 6:32:33 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Was the UN building the intended target???

Why do people think the UN could ever be a target? It's practically wall-to-wall terrorist sympathizers and criminals inside there. It's probably the safest building in New York.

358 posted on 11/12/2001 6:32:49 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: anniegetyourgun
Yes, this is too sad. We NYers lovingly refer to Belle Harbor as the Irish Riviera. A tremendous amount of NYC Firemen, Cops and Sanitation Workers live there.

They have a great St. Pattys day parade there every year.

The jerks on the radio and some on T.V. keep referring to the area as Far Rockaway, which is in the opposite direction and mostly African-American.

I went to High School there on Beach 112 St.

I am numb right now.

359 posted on 11/12/2001 6:33:08 AM PST by katnip
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To: Matchett-PI
Anything you want him to,

Agreed. I was responding to an inane "cosmic omens" post. Guess I should have put up a sarcasm tag. My own "mystic prediction": we will all receive BS emails about the numbers/locations/astrological signs/ Bible codes, etc involved in this latest tragedy.

360 posted on 11/12/2001 6:33:09 AM PST by Martin Tell
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