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McVeigh's Ghost - Top Pentagon Officials Say Iraq Involved in OKC Bombing
US News & World Report/ Fox & Friends ^ | October 23, 2001 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 10/23/2001 12:17:44 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner

Some dismiss it as being akin to Elvis sightings, but a few top Defense officials think Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh was an Iraqi agent. The theory stems from a never-before-reported allegation that McVeigh had allegedly collected Iraqi telephone numbers. Why haven't we heard this before about the case of the executed McVeigh? Conspiracy theorists in the Pentagon think it's part of a coverup.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraqandalqaeda; okcbombing
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To: mostlyundecided
If OKC was a test case, so was Waco.

Stay free...

341 posted on 10/23/2001 8:36:40 PM PDT by copycat
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To: WhiteGuy
I was just discussing the fact that our country recently let people enter this country in the past few years without background checks. I have a friend from Malaysia who had to have references, background checks, employee referrals, the whole nine yards to enter.

The past four years, Clinton has created blanket citizenship on the day of election along with a note: vote for....If I recall, immigrants who aren't citizens were sent a registration in California signed by Clinton in order to vote. Clinton gave those people the right to vote in our elections!

Sorry to go off on a tangent, but a lot of our problems are directly related to who entered this country and how. Clinton didn't believe in background checks in his administration...obviously that carried on to the rest of the country. My what a mess that *as*ard left us!

342 posted on 10/23/2001 8:38:29 PM PDT by jcmfreedom
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To: GEC
don't forget the Cole.
344 posted on 10/23/2001 8:46:18 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Uncle Sham
I was thinking earlier that I am very disappointed in Ashcroft. I never thought that McVeigh should have been executed. There was too much uncertainty surrounding the circumstances of the bombing.
345 posted on 10/23/2001 8:49:42 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Uncle Sham
This is why people join militias in the first place. Sheeh! Where do I sign up?
346 posted on 10/23/2001 8:50:59 PM PDT by spyone
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To: Interesting Times
www.skolnicksreports.com

"[6] As confirmed as to contents, by the FBI/CIA/intelligence agencies surveillance of Timothy McVeigh in the company of his Iraqi military officer handlers, McVeigh and his handlers carried around several suitcases. Some of them contained highly effective C-4 explosives. One suitcase contained a lower level sub-atomic device, known as "Red Mercury". The suitcase nuke had been developed by the Soviets and made available to their client-state, Iraq. The shearing off of the steel pillars of the Murrah Building was NOT done by a fertilizer truck-bomb from in front of the building. Rather, by devices in the parking section of the basement. As reported by a researcher, "Jane Graham,a sixty year old Federal Housing Services employee, was on the ninth floor of the Murrah Building when she saw, heard and felt the rolling tremor of the building accompanied by a slow rumbling explosion. About 6 to 8 seconds later, she was struck by a much more powerful and sudden explosion that lifted the floors of the building straight up. About 3 hours after the explosions took place she saw and later obtained video recordings of the federals pouring wet concrete into the 25 foot crater in the basement of the Murrah Building. Even though she demanded to testify before the Grand Jury she was not allowed to do so. Nor was she allowed to testify at all concerning any of the proceedings surrounding the Oklahoma City Massacre. Many other witnesses report similar experiences. Most witnesses are too fearful to speak out." As sent to us by e-mail from Reinhold Sommerstedt wealthassure@earthlink.net, 6/8/01. Independent persons, with radiation gauges, called Geiger Counters, tried to measure the radiation after the explosions, but were not permitted to get that close. In the past, I have been heckled for my exclusive stories that nuclear-type radiation residue, from tritium, was found and secretly measured by government operatives in the bombsite. Luckily or otherwise, what was discovered were left-overs of tritium. Unlike plutonium, tritium does not have a hundred-year or more "half-life", the period during which it can still greatly harm. Some contend the half-life of tritium is as little as thirty days. Critical of the fertilizer truck-bomb theory, author David Hoffman in his book did state: An article in The Nashville Tennessean insists Saddam Hussein has been developing 220 pounds of Lithium 6 a year. Lithium 6 can be converted to TRITIUM, an essential ingredient in thermonuclear reactions." (Emphasis added.) And in a footnote " 'Iraq Also Worked on Hydrogen Bomb', Associated Press, quoted in The Nashville Tennessean, 10/9/91, as quoted in Charles T. Harrison, 'Hell in a Hand Basket The Threat of Portable Nuclear Weapons', Military Review, May, 1993." The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror, Feral House, original 1998 Edition, page 14."

347 posted on 10/23/2001 8:51:03 PM PDT by Congolese
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To: copycat
If OKC was a test case, so was Waco

yep, should've included Waco.

348 posted on 10/23/2001 8:51:08 PM PDT by mostlyundecided
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To: George 666
...McVeigh's lawyer...

as I recall, the government/media story was that McVeigh wanted the execution, and Ashcroft agreed; BUT, We never heard a word from McVeigh's own mouth to that effect, nor on any subject. Everything was through his lawyer. Was McVeigh's lawyer telling the truth?

349 posted on 10/23/2001 8:54:24 PM PDT by jonathonandjennifer
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To: Congolese
If you are interested, here is a good place to start.

Unresolved Deaths in Oklahoma

350 posted on 10/23/2001 9:01:56 PM PDT by honway
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To: mewzilla
I find it hard to believe that so many people "sold themselves to the devil" in covering up for the OKC bombing,the TWA 800 flight, allowing undesirables to flock into this country without history checks.

How could one president have so much control over what we hear....or is it the congress? Is there no one with a conscience in our leadership? Maybe I should say "was there" no one with a conscience.

I do have a theory: "what goes around, comes around". Those people who lied to us will pay somewhere, some how, some time. The sad thing is that we are paying dearly right now.

351 posted on 10/23/2001 9:09:58 PM PDT by jcmfreedom
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To: honway
I saw that and read it - answered my own question. Thanks for the post.
352 posted on 10/23/2001 9:22:45 PM PDT by Congolese
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To: BlueDogDemo
Watermelon-size, a penchant for security and a loyal contingent would seem to be prerequisites.
353 posted on 10/23/2001 9:26:01 PM PDT by LSJohn
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To: Nita Nupress; philman_36; rdavis84; jedediah smith; Judge Parker; Patriot76; roughrider...
see #273, written in response to a suggestion that Wolfowitz could be a valuable source of information if approached properly.
354 posted on 10/23/2001 9:31:07 PM PDT by LSJohn
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To: WhiteGuy
Our government LIES to us about it, executes a "lone nut"
You seem to be missing the facts:

1) Michael Fortier turned state's witness.

2) Nichols has been convivted.

3) McVeigh confessed to it in his book.

Have you EVEN bothered to review McVeigh's trial transcripts?

Or is it easier to simply believe all this nuttier than wallnuts, tin-foil crap fed to you by a bunch of people who make a living off this tragedy by selling their books, videos and conspiracy theories?

355 posted on 10/23/2001 9:33:47 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: copycat
How did Clinton get so many in the FBI to go along with virtually no leaks? IMO, the FBI had their own mess to cover up, specifically their being used by M.E. double and triple agents.
356 posted on 10/23/2001 9:40:16 PM PDT by LSJohn
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To: celtic gal
To me you are right in your observations, rembrance, and desire for more investigation.

We need to succeed with what you have written to save lives in this country.

Thanks for taking the time to respond and share your views and information.

Stay involved - it will help everyone.

357 posted on 10/23/2001 9:54:14 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: ratcat; LSJohn; aristeides; Wallaby; OKCSubmariner; BlueDogDemo
I think you are right on target. The insiders at the Pentagon don't give a hoot about justice for the Oklahoma City bombing. And Wolfowitz is a real loose cannon - he wants to completely eliminate posse commitatus and install a police state, he wants to invade about 5 middle eastern countries and install new governments. He's NWO to the core and he's got his reasons for raising this issue now.

Good points --Wolfowitz has been a part of the "invade everything" Weekly Standard wing of the GOP. But as LSJohn pointed out, that doesn't necessarily make him part of the inner inner circles.

aristeides, thx for the flag; Wallaby, danke for the articles which I'll read later; OKCSub & BDD, as always thanks for your exclusive information and keep us updated on your efforts.

358 posted on 10/23/2001 9:55:04 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: LSJohn
Thanks for staying on top of all this. You elicited a very important response from BlueDog which a certain reporter I know has found extremly useful.

Your help and contributions are appreciated and needed. I am so glad there are many like you who care enough to get involved and help the others working on this.

359 posted on 10/23/2001 9:59:11 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
The clip from the US News link, in its entirety:

McVeigh's ghost 

                      Some dismiss it as being akin to Elvis sightings, but a few top Defense officials think
                      Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh was an Iraqi agent. The theory stems from a
                      never-before-reported allegation that McVeigh had allegedly collected Iraqi telephone
                      numbers. Why haven't we heard this before about the case of the executed McVeigh?
                      Conspiracy theorists in the Pentagon think it's part of a coverup.


Two facts here. Defense officials suspect McVeigh was an Iraqi agent, and there is an allegation floating around that McVeigh had a list of Iraqi telephone numbers. Anyone have the Fox link(s)?
360 posted on 10/23/2001 10:04:28 PM PDT by dr_who
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