Giuliani told no to longer transition... (Goodbye Unity, Hello Partisanship)

Drudge Report ^ | Tue Oct 09 2001 | Matt Drudge

[Texaggie79]

UPI-- New York's top Democrat said the state assembly won't allow New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani -- who is barred from a third term -- to remain in office in an extended 90-day transition period after Jan 1. The Democratic conference controls two-thirds of the 150-member state assembly.

[discontinue]

He may be a leader....but his time is up. He needs to go do something else. I'm not doubting his motives....It just makes me a little queasy watching a politician (good or bad) think they're irreplacable.

[hellinahandcart]

I hope this horrible attack accelerates the move of businesses out of Manhattan.

Gee, thanks. Maybe we should just tear down all the buildings, plant grass and trees, and give the island back to the Indians, too, while we're at it.

And when attacks happen in other cities, or suburban malls, or sports stadiums, your response will be...?

[Texaggie79]

Rudy has done nothing but offered his aid. It is the people of NY who have begged him to stay on. I agree they screwed themselves by voting for the limits in the first place. But for the democrats to want to deny him the ability to simply provide aid in the transition beyond a month, is nothing but partisan politics.

[dead]

You seriously think Rudy faked cancer, dropped out of the Senate race, and went through a very public end to his marriage, all because "Rockefeller told him to"?

Yes these people really do believe such things. I’ve had unbelievable conversations with their kind.

Here’s a quick synopsis of their world view (and I’m not making this up):

• David Rockefeller is a murderous psycho who runs the entire world
• The US Government is a willingly subservient cog in Rockefeller’s evil empire
• The Queen of England is a co-conspirator
• Goldman Sachs is some sort of secret agency that provides the gang’s muscle
• The Illuminati (created by The House of Rothschild in 1760) have instigated every war of the last two centuries
• Their goal is the complete destruction of Christianity and the global imposition of their luciferian ideology

  I could go on and on. They tell you you’ll never read about any of this stuff in any mainstream outlet because Rockefeller and the Illuminati control all sources of media. Somehow, though, they forgot to control the internet. Makes me wonder why Illuminati butt-boy Al Gore even invented the darn thing!

[dead]

Oh, and by the way, it doesn't matter which way you voted on term-limits. David Rockefeller wanted them, and David Rockefeller controls the ballot boxes.

You are absolved of all guilt. (but don't ever vote for them again, just in case)

[discontinue]

I would agree that he has....however, there are rules in place. Those rules should be followed, not changed simply because I or any citizen wants it to be. If they want the rules changed, they're welcome to so next year.

Let's say Hillary was term limited and her term was up...and she decided to stay on because "the people want me to"....!!!!

Politicians (or leaders as you said) are not irreplacable nor do they get to decide when they leave or stay if the law says otherwise; in this case, it says otherwise.

[hellinahandcart]

Oh, and by the way, it doesn't matter which way you voted on term-limits. David Rockefeller wanted them, and David Rockefeller controls the ballot boxes.

Thank you, dead. To think I've been blaming MYSELF all along for this...(sob, sniff)

[discostu]

I think you're just a little too wired on this. Rudy offered to aid the next mayor. Someone presented this to the state assembly and they chose to not make it official. In other words the next mayor is free to choose whether or not to accept Rudy's assistance, had they voted to accept his offer the next mayor would be FORCED to accept it. The next mayor should be allowed to run his office how he chooses without the state government mandating he make room for the former mayor.

The only thing that bothers me about it is that somebody took it up the chain for a vote in the state assembly. What should have happened was that Rudy made the offer, the candidates would announce it's consideration and then NOTHING would happen until after the election, somewhere between the election and the start of the new mayor's term the new mayor should announce his descision. Instead somebody forced the up the chain in an attempt to force the next mayor's hand; that's not cool and if it ties back to Rudy I'll be very upset with him.

[RobbyS]

Rudy will be eligible to run again in four years, or was the limit no more than two terms?

[dead]

NY term limits apply only to two consecutive terms. Rudy is free to run again in 2005, and for reelection again after that term.

After the voters get to see four years of Mark Green's NYC, I would imagine that term limits will be repealed shortly after Rudy's 2005 election.

[karth]

Nothing to do with the terrorists and attacks, just a business decision and an opportunity to improve quality of life for employees. Cities big and small have declined all over America; NYC has had a bread and circuses quality puffing it up.

[GOPJ]

Here's my guess: When Mayor Rudolph Giuliani leaves office, 20% of New York bushiness' will be looking for office space in other states.

Think what New York was like before Giuliani came to office, then add to that the horror of the last month, and ask what it will be like without Giuliani in the future.

[Boatlawyer]

This is probably the best thing that could happen to Giuliani. It immediately opens him up to an appointment by GW in the Homeland Defense arena.

[GOPJ]

You are soooooooooooo right.They did miss the point.

You guys seem to be missing what the article is saying. A third term was never in question as Rudy turned it down to begin with. This is about his offer to stay on as an advisor for 3 months to help the new administration to pick up with the disaster where he leaves off.

[Texaggie79]

Someone presented this to the state assembly and they chose to not make it official.

It's more like they are trying to make it OFFICIAL that he cannot aid past the 1 month as allotted no matter what. This is according to Rudy.

[MHGinTN]

wtc911 member since September 15th, 2001

It's sad to think that this makes you two happy. Posted by wtc911

Take your agenda and stick it where the sun doesn't shine, clymer. You assume too much and try to characterize me as 'happy' over the misfortunes of New Yorkers. You make a gross fool of yourself with that, newbie.

[Moridin]

Giuliani should have never pursued the idea.

[hellinahandcart]

Nothing to do with the terrorists and attacks, just a business decision and an opportunity to improve quality of life for employees.

Sorry, karth, but that's not what you said. This is what you said:

Personally, I hope they don't rebuild it and I hope this horrible attack accelerates the move of businesses out of Manhattan. The workers in those buildings would prefer to be in the suburbs close to where they live.

Now, I don't think you really believe, as a conservative, that businesses exist to improve the quality of life for their employees.

But, the businesses are free to leave if they feel it is in their interest to do so. And NATURALLY, any employee from the 'burbs who would rather work closer to home is PERFECTLY free to look for work elsewhere--as you did.

What I can't understand is your wish for this city or any other to die. That's what your post amounted to, you know. When the businesses leave, the city dies. Apparently you approve of this. I love living in the city, so I don't.

I notice you didn't answer my question either. What will your reaction be when a suburban area is targeted? Will it then be a "quality of life issue for the workers" for everyone to move to the country and work from their homes, instead of risking their lives to drive to their workplace? Or will you be of the opinion that everyone should stand firm and defend their way of life?

[wtc911]

Congrats, you managed to call me three names in two sentences. Very clever way to disagree.

Got a coupla questions...1) What is my agenda? 2) What does the date of my first post have to do with anything?

On a serious note, why do so many posters from the south take varying degrees of satisfaction when things go sour in the north? If we were not all on the same page more or less we wouldn't bother to read/reply in this forum.