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Secret plans for 10-year war: Generals rule out 'D-Day invasion'
The Times (UK) ^ | SEPTEMBER 20 2001 | BY MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR

Posted on 09/19/2001 7:50:33 PM PDT by aculeus

AMERICA and Britain are producing secret plans to launch a ten-year “war on terrorism” — Operation Noble Eagle — involving a completely new military and diplomatic strategy to eliminate terrorist networks and cells around the world. Despite the mass build-up of American forces in the Gulf and the Indian Ocean, there will be no “D-Day invasion” of Afghanistan and no repeat of the US-led Operation Desert Storm against Iraq in 1991, defence sources say.

The notion that a US-led multinational coalition would attack Afghanistan from all sides for harbouring Osama bin Laden, the wealthy Saudi dissident leader and prime suspect for the terrorist outrages in New York and Washington, has been rejected in Washington and London. The sources also say that the planned campaign is not being focused on just “bringing bin Laden to justice”.

The build-up of firepower by the Americans in the region, notably the two aircraft carrier battle groups that are to be joined by a third carrier, USS Theodore Roosevelt, is seen as a major display of available military capability. While it is important for these assets to be in the right place in case of a political decision to launch a strike, there are no plans for a “short-term fix”.

The dramatically different anti-terrorism campaign is being planned to meet what is now regarded as the most dangerous threat to global security, known as asymmetric warfare. “We’re expecting it to last from five to ten years,” one source said.

New ideas are needed to counter small groups armed with the minimum of weaponry, whether conventional or non-conventional. Such groups have the capability to attack a nation as powerful as the United States, which is equipped with the full range of modern weapons and professional Armed Forces.

Old doctrines for fighting wars, based on lining up tanks and artillery and layers of troops, are being thrown out and replaced by a more subtle and wide-ranging doctrine which seeks to defeat the enemy at its own game. “The aim is not to go for the enemy’s strengths, but its weaknesses,” one source said.

American and British planners are working on the basis that military strikes will take place only as part of a broader global counter-terrorist operation, embracing every other type of international action — diplomatic, economic and political.

Most of the focus of the ten-year campaign plan, the sources say, is on using military action as a potent back-up to all the other strands of Operation Noble Eagle.

However, President Bush, conscious of the demand for “revenge” from the American public, might sanction shorter-term military operation by special forces, or airstrikes, but only if there is sufficient intelligence to guarantee a sucessful outcome. “There’s no point in firing a lot of missiles at bin Laden if they miss their target, or launching Tomahawks at bin Laden training camps if they are empty,” one source said.

Donald Rumsfeld, the American Defence Secretary, also gave the strongest hint yesterday of what Operation Noble Eagle is all about. “I think what you will see evolve over the next six, eight, ten, 12 months, probably over a period of years, is a coalition to help battle terrorists,” he told CNN.

He added: “This is a very new type of conflict or battle or campaign or war or effort, for the United States. We’re moving in a measured manner. As we gather information, we’re preparing appropriate courses of action, and they run across the political and economic and financial, military, intelligence spectrum.”

British officials said the whole focus of the long-term American approach was being driven by Richard Cheney, the American Vice-President, and General Colin Powell, the Secretary of State. The combination of the two highly experienced men was guaranteeing a well-coordinated strategy. “Everyone now knows it’s going to be a long haul, not a spectacular single strike,” one official said.

The war on terrorism could be likened, they said, to the war on drugs or poverty, and the best way to undermine and eventually dismantle the terrorist structures around the world was to use the method of “hearts and minds” — encouraging foreign governments and people to join in the “war” so that terrorists would be isolated and identified.

Some of the most dramatic achievements, the sources say, might come, not from military action, but from political pressure on foreign governments to turn their backs on terrorism and to hand over the organisers of terrorist networks.

They point to the campaign against Yugoslavia in 1999. Although the airstrikes fitted more closely to the “old doctrine concept” of using massed firepower to target the enemy, which brought criticism from many parts of the world, Nato was also seen to be working as a humanitarian agency with its operation in Albania helping to build shelters for the thousands of refugees pouring out of Kosovo.

The eventual outcome, the political downfall of Slobodan Milosevic and the decision by the new Government to hand him over to the war crimes tribunal in The Hague, is seen as a classic example of how military action can serve two purposes, defeating the enemy and effecting political change.

In the Gulf War, the American-led coalition achieved one objective, driving the Iraqis out of Kuwait, but not the other, the overthrow of President Saddam Hussein by his own people.

Already, the sources say, just over a week after the terrorist attacks in America, there have been positive developments: the Israeli and Palestinian leaders have agreed a new ceasefire and 1,000 clerics have been forced to gather in Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan, to discuss the fate of bin Laden.

Yesterday it was also announced that President Putin is to visit Nato headquarters in Brussels on October 3 and will meet Lord Robertson of Port Ellen, the Secretary- General, another positive sign that the Russian leader supports the campaign against terrorism.

Russia and Nato put out a joint statement last week condemning the terrorist attacks and vowing that they would not go unpunished.

Other coalitions against terrorism are also being rapidly formed and several countries, notably Pakistan yesterday, have offered bases for American military action.

However, sources in Washington say there are no plans to deploy huge numbers of US troops to Pakistan, which would only inflame Islamic fundamentalists opposed to the decision by President Musharraf to grant US access to two air bases in the country.


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To: teacher33w
This was the administration's point- read the text of the many announcements and speeches. There is no way, and truly never was any way, for the government to protect us from all fear and all danger. The administration, particularly Rumsfield, has pointed out that the best protection we have is our own individual determination to remain vigilent. Do you want to protect the 'chillun'? Then you must teach your children to be as sharp-eyed as a red-tail hawk. You must teach them to be cautious and to pay attention to their surroundings, instead of letting them keep their heads buried in the TV or in video games. You must teach them what to do if they see smoke or fire, what to do if they see people who look to be carrying a payload that isn't just lard, to notice peoople who are just lingering around for no reason, to notice unattended objects where they aren't suposed to be. And you should take care to pay attention so that they know you're listening and won't dismiss their concerns. You should also teach them basic lifesaving techniques and how to care for different types of wounds. And some methods of resistance for the older ones should be in order. This isn't paranoid- it is something everyone should already be doing, terrorist threat or not. Make sure you know too.

Ironically enough, inner city kids already know about the importance of careful observation of their surroundings- in other words, they have street smarts. It's the kids from more affluent parts of society that are more seriously lacking in survival skills.

It used to be, we didn't have to remind ourselves to simply be alert. It was instinctive, a trait of the agricultural and hunting culture from whence we came. Tracking animals was a way of feeding the family.

But today, tracking 'animals' is something more: it is the way to keep your culture from being utterly destroyed.

41 posted on 09/19/2001 8:58:37 PM PDT by piasa
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To: cajungirl
LOL. Too many wusses, too little time.
42 posted on 09/19/2001 9:03:16 PM PDT by piasa
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To: teacher33w
>>While we are planning our war on terrorism, what are we doing to protect ourselves from another attack?

If you read or listen to the news,you know the answer to this question.

>>Please, I beg you, please protect our children. What are we doing to stop an attack on schools? Has this thought crossed anyone's mind but me? <<

I hate to be the one to break the bad news to you,but there is NOTHING anybody including the gooberment can do to guarantee this won't happen. Your security is a illusion and always has been.

43 posted on 09/19/2001 9:14:27 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: ratcat
"The Chinese will "allow" us to invade Afghanistan, while they invade Taiwan. Meanwhile, much of our military electronics/hardware comes from Taiwan."

Maybe the way it was planned all along. I'm sure I won't be surprised if that money trail leads to both CHINA & IRAQ.

44 posted on 09/19/2001 9:14:38 PM PDT by Quaz957
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To: aculeus
A "secret plan" with all the details for all to read, huh? British humor.
45 posted on 09/19/2001 9:22:07 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: aculeus
The war on terrorism could be likened, they said, to the war on drugs or poverty...

Ahhh, just what we need at this moment...another bureaucratic boondoggle. This "secret" plan has all the earmarks of pedestrianism and certainly will not sustain popular support for very long...we're going to use boredom to bring the enemy to tears.

One good shot of anthrax on the west coast and this policy will abruptly change to what we should have done in the first place--declare war officially against international terrorism and take out entire regimes who serve as hosts.

46 posted on 09/19/2001 9:26:22 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: randog
Randog, I TOTALLY agree with you. I think operations will generally be SO covert that we will have no idea what's happening until it's over. There IS only one way to catch constantly moving groups of "cells" preparing for their dastardly deeds in dozens of countries -- surveillance and sneak attack. Carpet bombing won't work and will tick off too many governments around the world. Cheney was right when he said we will have to employ criminals to accomplish our goals. Of course, there probably WILL be a few big strikes, even if just for show... WHATEVER IT TAKES.....
47 posted on 09/19/2001 11:21:20 PM PDT by Califreeper
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To: Sawdring,Travis McGee, Chapita, tonycavanaugh, jauntybeesting, RCW2001, Clinton's a Liar, madrussian
a ten-year “war on terrorism...a completely new military and diplomatic strategy ...Despite the mass build-up of American forces in the Gulf and the Indian Ocean, there will be no “D-Day invasion” of Afghanistan and no repeat of the US-led Operation Desert Storm against Iraq in 1991...

. The notion that a US-led multinational coalition would attack Afghanistan from all sides...has been rejected....

The build-up of firepower by the Americans in the region... is seen as a major display of available military capability...

Old doctrines for fighting wars, based on lining up tanks and artillery and layers of troops, are being thrown out...

...military strikes will take place only as part of a broader global counter-terrorist operation, embracing ...diplomatic, economic and political [action].

However, President Bush...might sanction ...special forces, or airstrikes, but only if there is sufficient intelligence to guarantee a sucessful outcome....

Donald Rumsfeld, the American Defence Secretary, [said]...“I think ...over the next six, eight, ten, 12 months, probably over a period of years, is a coalition to help battle terrorists,”..

"...As we gather information, we’re preparing appropriate courses of action, and they run across the political and economic and financial, military, intelligence spectrum.”

...Everyone now knows it’s going to be a long haul, not a spectacular single strike,” ...

The war on terrorism could be likened, they said, to the war on drugs or poverty...use the method of “hearts and minds”...so that terrorists would be isolated and identified.

Some of the most dramatic achievements...might come...from political pressure on foreign governments...

...sources in Washington say there are no plans to deploy huge numbers of US troops to Pakistan...

Say what?
49 posted on 09/20/2001 12:13:16 AM PDT by AGAviator
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To: aculeus
The war on terrorism could be likened, they said, to the war on drugs or poverty

oh crap are we in for trouble.

50 posted on 09/20/2001 12:16:09 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: karlamayne
#49 FYI
51 posted on 09/20/2001 12:18:36 AM PDT by AGAviator
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To: cajungirl,harpseal,squantos
One of the most important "sticks" will be "hunter killer teams" composed of CIA and Delta guys who will pursue the intelligence chiefs of Iraq and other pro-terrorist states and kill them where ever and when ever they can.

This will be on the order what the Mossad did after the 1972 Munich olympics, only on a far vaster scale.

52 posted on 09/20/2001 12:23:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: cajungirl
BRAVA !
53 posted on 09/20/2001 12:26:44 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: AGAviator, MadIvan
Thank you for the flag, AGAviator.

Methinks "MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR" is pushing his own agenda.

MadIvan: you have any intel on this joker?

54 posted on 09/20/2001 12:37:39 AM PDT by Clinton's a liar
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To: Clinton's a liar
Not really, I am not a Times reader, so really am not too aware of who is writing for their rag - I am a solid Daily Telegraph man. The Times has been squishy as of late - the Sun, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph (of course), remaining solid.

Regards, Ivan
55 posted on 09/20/2001 12:41:14 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Thanks for the input, sweetie. Hugs.
56 posted on 09/20/2001 12:44:44 AM PDT by Clinton's a liar
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To: All
Yup, so secret, if ya read this they have to wax ya.
57 posted on 09/20/2001 12:48:03 AM PDT by spectr17
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To: BurkeanCyclist
I think that if we do not topple at least one terrorist-supporting government, we will lose credibility.

We lost that a long time ago. This is just icing on the cake.

58 posted on 09/20/2001 12:56:22 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Clinton's a liar
Methinks "MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR" is pushing his own agenda

It could be some disinformation, but OTOH there has to be some "hearts and minds" strategy or we will never have any human intelligence from the other countries.

Occupying Afghanistan is a huge challenge, and if it is not occupied, the minute bombing stops or even pauses people will go back to whatever they were doing before the attacks, which would include terrorist-related activities if that's their profession.

59 posted on 09/20/2001 1:03:45 AM PDT by AGAviator
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To: AGAviator
I would agree with you, AGAviator, if the author hadn't used hot button "buzz words" throughout this piece. It looks like a propaganda piece to me.

Thanks, again, for the flag.

60 posted on 09/20/2001 1:10:48 AM PDT by Clinton's a liar
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