[Califreeper]

Randog, I TOTALLY agree with you. I think operations will generally be SO covert that we will have no idea what's happening until it's over. There IS only one way to catch constantly moving groups of "cells" preparing for their dastardly deeds in dozens of countries -- surveillance and sneak attack. Carpet bombing won't work and will tick off too many governments around the world. Cheney was right when he said we will have to employ criminals to accomplish our goals. Of course, there probably WILL be a few big strikes, even if just for show... WHATEVER IT TAKES.....

[sneakypete]

>>Cheney was right when he said we will have to employ criminals to accomplish our goals.<<

Did he actually use the word "criminals",or the less explicit words "unsavory characters"?

Wasn't it Churchhill who explaind to some airhead woman who was being critical of the military in the 1930's that "you and others good people sleep well at night because there are hard young men awake willing to do evil in your name in order to protect you."? Are you sure Rumsfield was saying a version of this?