Any Freeper Espousing Racial/Ethnic/Religious Hatred is Hurting the War Effort

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[zook]

Freepers or anyone else who engage in bigoted attacks agains Arab Americans or innocent Muslims in this country are engaging in seditious conduct. By stirring up internal division and animosity they are helping the enemy.

Some of us need to grow up, some need to shut up, and more need to speak up.

[TightSqueeze]

"Muslims should not be in our midst at this point in time". Internment camps for muslims? Someone is suggesting internment camps for all muslims on FR?

I feel all warm and fuzzy that we are PC enough to allow Atta Mohammed and Aunt Millie the same unrestriced access in America.

[Logophile]

Yes, I have know several Muslims. The curious thing is that none of them deemed it necessary to dress as if their camels were parked outside, and I had no clue they were Muslim until a long time after meeting them. They were close to their culture, but indistinguishable from me or you.

They are Americans.

I have a colleague who is as you describe your Moslem associates. He was born in Iran, but grew up in this country. He dresses and talks like an American, which of course he is.

I think I'll call him up and invite him to lunch this week. My guess is he will have some harsh things to say about terrorists who fly airliners into buildings full of people.

[Publius6961]

Everywhere I look I see preparation. Be patient. We'll do it right this time.

If by "doing it right" you mean prevent without question a recurrence of Mass Murder, and another incident occurs, what will you say?
"OOooops"?

Bet you didn't lose any friends or loved ones in New York Tuesday.

The Arab/Muslim mentality respects only decisive and immediate action. The time to impress them is long past.

[zook]

"Innocent Arab people both at home and abroad and immigrants across the U.S. face a danger of racist and xenophobic attacks. We call on the Bush Administration, and all state and local authorities to take measures to guarantee everyone's safety. " Communist Party USA press release September 12, 2001

"We must hold on now and not start pointing fingers at Arab-Americans and Muslim-Americans"--Hillary Clinton 9/15/01

I agree with both statements above. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. If we turn our anger inward to the point where innocents are harmed, we lose.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

It's not about being PC. It's about the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

[JtS]

"And, as I said before>.......GERMANS LOOK JUST LIKE ENGLISH, NORWEIGANS, SWEDES (well, sorta), FINNISH...."

Totally untrue! Us German guys have the best beer bellies around! ;)

[FR_addict]

Japanese Americans were sent to camps by the Democrats. They were very patriotic and their sons enlisted in the military.

I haven't heard the same type of support and patriotism from the American Muslem population. I hope they do come out with one voice condemning the terrorists. But I haven't heard it yet.

[TightSqueeze]

If you like, I could have my co-worker drop you a line. He's Muslim. 4th generation American, from Ohio. He's not Middle Eastern. He has spoken out against the attacks. Of course, you can keep lumping all people into one pile if you like.

Get back to us in 6 months after we did whatever we are about to do and then tell us your muslim 4th generation American, from Ohio is still a patriot. Or might the devastation of his ancestor’s homeland cause new problems for America? Maybe for you and your friend the best thing might be to just move on, you know… forgive and forget.

[truth_seeker]

However, the only ones who should be interned are the foreign nationals who are not US citizens.

I've been mentioning internment, to remind that we ONCE took our own security seriously. Now, we act as if we wouldn't want to risk someone saying anything bad about us. That is partly why the events of Tuesday happened.

We probably over reacted in WWII, that much I will grant. Better to over react, than to under react, which is what I fear we are now doing. I believe that many were released, after initial internment. And I believe that from the procedure, we DID identify enemies of America.

Lest you get caught up in the mythology, there WERE disloyal Japanese origin people in America. THAT is one reason we took this measure, not then knowing it would later grow to be unpopular.

It is not unpopular, to this day, for my parents. My mother rivetted planes, and lived through the blackouts in Southern California. My Dad built the internment compound, at Heart Mountain, Wyoming, before earning a Purple Heart at Okinawa.

I'll settle for interning as many as possible, however unpopular. Sort them out and let the good ones go free. Deliver the bad ones to Saddam, of bin Laden, AirMail direct delivery atop a Cruise missile.

[zook]

You are the "traitor" here. To American ideals, the Constitution and the concept of liberty.

You don't know what liberty is. But if you attempt to harm innocent people here in the land of the free, those of us who know what liberty means will stop you.

[LarryLied]

A matter of proportion. The communist party and Hillary Clinton are more concerned , as are you(so you claim), about what might happen to someone than what has happened to thousands.

Moslems have not been harmed in America. You know that, I know that, we all know that.

What you express is a damn lie.

You don't care, the Communist Party doesn't care, Hillary Clinton doesn't care, no lefty cares about people. We know their history. We know what they do and what they want.

This entire thread is BS.

Moslems are in no danger in America. Americans are in danger in America. And people like you could give a rat's ass.

[zook]

Indeed they do. So far I haven't heard much from moslems (American or otherwise) or Arabs (American or otherwise) supporting the US, or condemning bin laden and other terrorist scum in clear, strong language.

I don't know where you've been. I've heard numerous American Arab spokespersons express their loyalty.

[ArneFufkin]

Totally untrue! Us German guys have the best beer bellies around! ;)

Having grown up in Milwaukee, it's hard for me to argue. Our Polish brothers can stand (listedly) proud as well. It's all good.

[FR_addict]

It is also important to know that in exercising Jihad, Muslim extremists may not think they are trying to maliciously hurt others, but rather they are only obeying God's commandments. And in doing so, they are assuring themselves a place in Paradise.

So they are misunderstood religious people, not cold blooded killers? Are you being facetious? They hate us, can't you figure that out?

They were very cruel to the people in the airplanes, tauting them with the fact that they were all going to die. What a cruel religion.

[neutrino]

I've heard numerous American Arab spokespersons express their loyalty.

The operative term here is in clear, strong language. To date, what I've heard is anemic and half hearted at best.

[zook]

At this time we must consider every muslim to be our enemy.

And what does this mean? Will you aim your car at them? Hassle them on the street? Pick fights? Call them names? The nonsense you are espousing is a recipe for panic and defeat. There are perhaps dozens of Muslim police and firefighters buried under the NY rubble. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

[AlaskaErik]

Excuse me , but I wont be moving anytime soon. There is no room in America for people like you. I am 100% American and this is my country just as much as it is yours. Your attitude does not fit with the teachings and writings of our forefathers who faught the British so we could have this great land. My grandfather was not allowed to fight for his country in WWII because he was Black, what you stated is along the lines of thinking during is time. I currently serve my country proudly alone with other family members and I will die doing so. Once you speake of denying rights to others based on any reason, you better believe your rights will be next. Instead of focusing your hatred and anger towards others, why dont you stand up and fight for your country and the preservation of its rights. Or lend your support and help to those in New York and DC. I have spend my time yesterday down at the Salvation Army in Virginia, organizing the supplies for the Americans who are spending countless hours searching for those who died at the pentagon. So dont you dare say I have no place in this country.

Excuse me, but where in any of my posts did I mention denying anyone their rights? Where did I say you have no place in America? If you are a muslim, then I do consider you my enemy. I will watch my back when you or any other muslim is near me. If you are not a muslim, then I have no quarrel with you.

[zook]

Anyone who introduces the word "racist" is immediately suspect.

A disruptor?

How 'bout you click on my handle and check how long I've been around here.

What's wrong? You have a problem with truth?

[NC_Libertarian]

Agree.