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I like Bush. I supported him and voted for him in the election. I have his bumper sticker on my car. I donated money to his campaign. I even met him very briefly in October, but if he's going to be a pussy about this, then someone else has got to step up.
1 posted on 09/12/2001 8:04:51 AM PDT by Heisenburger
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Look, I am getting a little tired of these trite "Bush didn't say or do exactly what I - I - I - I - I thought he should - so I - I - I - I am disappointed, will find another leader, will not support him, will not vote for him.

Bush is leading this country very effectively and is not your personal superman to do your bidding.

Maybe you need to take your support elsewhere - you sure do not give it to Bush or the country.

What this country needs is support and unity - not complaining wimps telling Bush how to do his business although they were not elected, not qualified, not in a position to do anything but complain or support and they choose to complain and add to our problems.

Get over yourself.

40 posted on 09/12/2001 8:23:47 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Heisenburger
I understood as "this is an act of war". I have to believe that they are going to treat it as such. Dubya has never been one to parse words. I will join you in the chorus of gripes when proven otherwise.
46 posted on 09/12/2001 8:26:51 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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A declaration of War is no small thing, and it should not be taken lightly or in the heat of the moment. Even after Pearl Harbor we waited until the next day.

The problem with a declaration of war is that it provides forewarning. I believe that the president should continue on his current course, asking for increased funding authority, and take action as CinC under the War Powers Act. If and when further authority is required or desired in order to achieve maximum effect we should then and only then declare war against appropriate named soveriegn countries.

That means that if Afghanistan, the Sudan, the UAE, Algeria, Libya etc. attempt to prevent or impede unilateral actions against known terrorists and conspirators that they will then fall under the harboring provision of his statements. A Declaration of War based on the grounds of an alliance with known enemies of the United States would then be appropriate. The President does not need a DoW to act, he only needs it to sustain action or if a head of state (as recognized by the US DoS is a potential/likely casualty.

48 posted on 09/12/2001 8:27:19 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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What do you want him to do? Telegraph our planned retaliation?
51 posted on 09/12/2001 8:30:03 AM PDT by BADJOE
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Keep in mind, collectivly Congress is a bunch of useless cowards.
52 posted on 09/12/2001 8:30:29 AM PDT by wny
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VERY IMPORTANT.... hints about what happened on 9/1101.
Lecture given July 10, 2001
Chuck Missler & Koinonia House Present:
Jewish Speaker, Author, Avi Lipkin

Mid-East Update

Click HERE to listen.

55 posted on 09/12/2001 8:32:07 AM PDT by spiker (spiker@ev1.net)
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Bush will commit political suicide if he soft pedals this grave situation. On the other hand he will insure his second term if he takes quick and decisive action.
62 posted on 09/12/2001 8:36:23 AM PDT by rstevens
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Trust me. This George Bush won't need Margaret Thatcher to tell him "This is no time to go wobbly".

He speaks softly, but will wield a big stick.

Unlike our last President that spoke boldly and played with his little d*ck.

64 posted on 09/12/2001 8:37:29 AM PDT by Yankee
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You, sir, are most unwise with this post, and you create divisiveness at a critical time, IMHO. There is so so much more going on behind the scenes in terms of political and military assets being positioned for a strike the likes you have never seen. Deal with it. What piece of hard evidence do you have to offer here in open forum that Kabul particularly planned or directed this attack? This may or may not be the case, the analysis is continuing, you jack of all asses. If you don't personally possess or have access to this incontrovertible evidence in order to share with us and the FBI, my friend, then don't be calling a President of the United States "puss...", got it?

Thank goodness rubber-necking, ambulance-chasing, armchair warriors like you no zilch access to the levels of U.S. strategic and tactical military forces or civilian control.

66 posted on 09/12/2001 8:37:38 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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I thought congress, as the elected representatives of the American people, are the one's who vote and declare war?
68 posted on 09/12/2001 8:41:14 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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I like Bush

I agree. He is probably a decent man. I held my nose when I voted for him because I knew he would be a Rockafeller Republican like his father.

In the primary, I voted for Keyes, knowing full well he did not have a chance. Four years earlier I voted for Buchanan in the primary for the same reason re; Dole. Imagine the great leadership we would be seeing if Keyes or Buchanan were President!

Bush is a huge Wussy and I am embarrassed and ashamed of him.

69 posted on 09/12/2001 8:41:17 AM PDT by zevonfan
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War has already been declared in the heavenlies. This is as much a spiritual battle as it is a physical battle. Any country who allies itself with Israel will be targeted as an enemy of the Ishmaelites. Their true enemy is Israel and they hate us for aligning with them. It's the old Ishmael and Isaac problem, stemming from the days of Abraham. It won't be solved until the return of the Messiah, Jesus Christ. We'd better be prepared spiritually for this war. I believe God is changing the face of America and we will be turning to Him instead of our other gods--money, education, big business, whatever we have used as a god in our lives--and we will see a revival coming that has never been seen before in any time period. Man can't fight this battle. Only God can. We can try but in the end, He triumphs over all. Seek Him with all your heart. That's where the peace is.
70 posted on 09/12/2001 8:41:26 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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Be advised that there are those elsewhere in the world who would benefit by having the US thoroughly occupied, embroiled, and focused on the Middle East.
75 posted on 09/12/2001 8:46:45 AM PDT by piasa
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I think I can understand your frustration. What we are seeing is part of what one writer in I think, the WSJ, described last year as a 'national plague of niceness' (or some similar term.) We just have to be nice at all times, don't we?! No room for John Waynes, Humphrey Bogarts or Cary Grants, none of whom was 'nice' by today's standards (at least not on the screen.) We aim to be nicer than Jimmy Stewart, or the three helpful characters in the Wizard of Oz.

Nevertheless, I continue to believe that Dubya will do the right thing despite his "niceness".

78 posted on 09/12/2001 8:48:56 AM PDT by Revolting cat!
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A Declaration of War presupposes that we are fighting a nation, in the ordinary sense, with a discernible geographic limit and a significant civilian population. A Declaration of War also presupposes that our enemy consists of soldiers more or less trained to observe certain humanitarian rules, and that we will also observe humantarian rules ourselves. We don't consider such niceties when we are determined to stomp out swarms of rats!
85 posted on 09/12/2001 8:54:10 AM PDT by DonQ
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One of the first rules of successful shooting is to identify your target. Bush is doing just that.

He made it perfectly clear that not only the individuals who were directly responsible would be held to account, but also those who aided and abetted them.

Right now we should just sit tight, support the President and see how things fall out. We could also contact all our congresspeople and tell them to provide Israel with all the tanks, guns, ammo, planes, rockets, etc, they want to wipe the grins off the faces of those sub-human Palestinians. I used to sympathysize with those people - but never again. They attacked us and they are now the enemy. All the injustices they may or may not have received are now totally irrelevant to this American, thanks to Mr. Ben Laddin.

92 posted on 09/12/2001 9:04:35 AM PDT by ZULU
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I am a fairly liberal late 20th century guy. I have been taught tolerance all my life. We have been tolerant. Since I was a kid I have heard these ISLAMIC cultures spout hatred for us. We tried to understand. We tried to Listen. We fostered peace so their views could be aired. The palestinians, for crying out loud, got LAND and a state. In the last twenty years the children of these cultures have been raised to HATE us. There are enough of them that hate so much that they would do this. These cultures are in their very existance now proven beyond doubt that they are an evil deviant religious culture that is bent on the destruction of our civilization by lying murderous means. An act of war has been committed against our nation. I strongly support a declaration of WAR against the states of Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan. These peoples have proven themselves to be evil & monstrous supporters of the kinds of cultures which foster the perpetrators of the WTC bombing. I want the US government to declare war on these countries so that we can topple these governments and persecute ALL religious fanatics until they are dead. Their very culture is evil and must be destroyed. We have had it with appeasement, and if we hear the Gov't spouting tolerance and "justice" we will know they are not worthy of our support in this "civilization". Sometimes good men must do bad things to stop evil. We want retribution so forceful that these elements of hatred against us have no children to teach hate to any more. They must be wiped out. I can think of no better reason for the use of tactical nuclear weapons than the obliteration of key cities in these states. The world will have to live with it's complicity with these bastards and have to live with the retribution that they called down on themselves. Religion is an evil thing. Judgement will be for God. ;-(
94 posted on 09/12/2001 9:08:12 AM PDT by R Morgan
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I've e-mailed my congressman asking for a declaration of war, and for swift attacks, with all force, against the Taliban and the regime in Iraq. We already know for sure they are our enemies. They will not be impressed by days of U.S. investigations and fact-finding. It is prudent to assume that more attacks against the U.S. are already planned and staged, and they will be delivered by different means. This was worse than Pearl Harbor, and calls for a fierce and disproportionate counter-attack.
96 posted on 09/12/2001 9:09:03 AM PDT by ktatlow
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Fox news reported that they have identified two of the terrorists that took over that plane that crashed near Pittsburgh and they were connected to Osama bin Laden.
104 posted on 09/12/2001 9:21:15 AM PDT by Renatus
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There Will be NO Declaration of War or NO REAL Pay-Back....NOTHING 'REAL'....His 'MASTER' aka Marc Rich and The Shadow Ruller of This Once Great Nation Will Not Permit His Use-Full Stooge to ACT as an "American" President....OUR NATIONAL NIGHT-MARE HAS BEGUN!!!!!.......
109 posted on 09/12/2001 9:41:45 AM PDT by mr spike
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