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US Has Heavily Researched Anti-Gravity, Book Says
Reuters ^ | Friday September 7 12:15 PM ET | By Bradley Perrett

Posted on 09/08/2001 1:05:48 PM PDT by Paul_E_Ester

By Bradley Perrett

LONDON (Reuters) - The U.S. military may have conducted serious research into anti-gravity based on Nazi studies, a top defense journalist suggests in a new book.

In ``The Hunt for Zero Point,'' journalist Nick Cook says, based on a decade's research, he believes by the 1950s the U.S. was seriously working on anti-gravity ``electrogravitics'' technology, which would lift and propel vehicles without wings or thrust.

``I feel intuitively that some vehicle has been developed, particularly given that there is this wealth of scientific data out there, and the Americans have never been slow to pick up on this sort of science,'' Cook, the aerospace consultant for Jane's Defense Weekly, told Reuters in an interview.

Cook uncovered reports and sightings of a Nazi research device that had been hidden in a remote part of Poland, where it had apparently been supplied with great quantities of electricity -- which an electrogravitic experiment would require.

Curiously, barely a hint of such Nazi research appeared after the war, suggesting that whoever captured it -- probably the United States -- immediately stamped it ``secret,'' he said.

Cook noted that, as a respected expert, he is risking his reputation by writing seriously about a technology associated with UFOs, which most scientists dismiss as science fiction embraced by ``hocus-pocus'' believers.

The United States is known to have a huge budget for so called ``black projects,'' because it spends more on defense than can be accounted for by adding up the value of public programs.

Cook admitted he cannot produce a conclusive case. But that is the nature of black projects, in which even the workers usually have no idea what they are working on.

In 1947, amid the early craze of UFO reports, an air force general reported on the possibility of the United States building disc-shaped objects with extreme rates of climb and maneuverability but without noise or evident propulsion.

In the mid 1950s electrogravitics was the subject of a few press reports, including one that described work by most of the United States' major defense contractors, Cook reported.

And then it all went quiet -- just as stealth technology suddenly disappeared from view in the mid 1970s, only to re-emerge as operational aircraft in the late 1980s.

Academic papers on the subject have mysteriously disappeared from libraries.

There is still no firm evidence that electrogravitics is more than science fiction. Civilian scientists and amateurs have experimented with it, and while some have reported success, no one seems to have reproduced their results to prove that it works.


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To: Paul_E_Ester
Still looking for the elusive mineral UPSIDASIUM?
21 posted on 09/08/2001 5:00:28 PM PDT by imperator2
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To: jimmyBEEgood
Makes sense to me the Gov't has been trying to repeal the laws of ecconomics, why not physics as well...
22 posted on 09/08/2001 5:03:51 PM PDT by null and void (and morals, too...)
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To: Paul_E_Ester
This MPEG is really Cool!!!! Can someone make a Link?.....http://www.aagsc.org/miscellaneous/Jetblast.mpeg
23 posted on 09/08/2001 5:08:00 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: jimmyBEEgood
I thought it was Flubberski...
25 posted on 09/08/2001 5:17:56 PM PDT by null and void
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To: VadeRetro
You don't see many stories featuring antigravity anymore.

HG Wells took a ship to the moon by coating it with an anti-gravity paint of some kind, so the ship didn't weigh anything (probably an early form of WD-40). That was written about 100 years ago, typical of the period. But you're right, SF just doesn't use anti-gravity these days.

26 posted on 09/08/2001 5:33:08 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Check out post 23!
27 posted on 09/08/2001 5:35:35 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: PatrickHenry
Anti-gravity paint!?? Jules Verne shot his ship to the moon out of a big cannon. (Imagine the G-forces!)
28 posted on 09/08/2001 5:44:21 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Paul_E_Ester
How would they get funding? Congress doesn't care as it's too late to help get Hillary's a$$ back up.
29 posted on 09/08/2001 5:44:24 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
POLAND? They still haven't figured out how to drive those 10,000 septic tanks they bought from russia.
30 posted on 09/08/2001 6:51:45 PM PDT by gunsofbrixton
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To: Physicist, ThinkPlease, RadioAstronomer, purple haze
anti-gravity bump.
31 posted on 09/08/2001 8:09:46 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: XBob
has anyone even figured out what gravity is?

Einstein did. It's the curvature of spacetime.

32 posted on 09/08/2001 8:31:40 PM PDT by Physicist (sterner@sterner.hep.upenn.edu)
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To: Paul_E_Ester
I have no doubt that tax dollars have been thrown at antigravity research. I also have no doubt that tax dollars have been thrown at perpetual motion, psychic powers and Hebrew numerology. That doesn't make any of it so.
33 posted on 09/08/2001 8:34:10 PM PDT by Physicist (sterner@sterner.hep.upenn.edu)
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To: VadeRetro
Jules Verne shot his ship to the moon out of a big cannon. (Imagine the G-forces!)

The beak of the red-headed woodpecker (Melanerpes erythrocephalus) hits the bark of a tree with an impact velocity of 13 mph, subjecting the bird's brain to a deceleration of approximately 10 g when its head snaps back. Other woodpeckers my experience an even higher g-force.

How do you know Verne was talking about shooting normal humans out of a cannon and not liberal pea brains?

34 posted on 09/08/2001 8:40:01 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Physicist
I seem to recall a post by you a few months back in which you mentioned something about the nature of gravity (the details of which I cannot recall), but the implication of it (I think) was that we ought not waste much time looking for anti-gravity.

Am I hallucinating, or could you elaborate for folks on the theoretical obstacles to anti-gravity machines?

Thanx.

35 posted on 09/08/2001 8:43:32 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: imperator2
Wasn't that flubber?
36 posted on 09/08/2001 8:49:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Physicist
Post #32 ... Is the spacetime curvature basically a temporal or spatial phenomenon? I ask because all other primary forces 9electromagnetic, strong and weak nuclear) we're familiar with appear to be influencing the spatial parameters of spacetime, while gravity may be influencing the temporal and that's why a unifying theory has not been found as yet. Perhaps, maybe ... as in every mass lays along the relative future of every other mass? [Ugh, this is gonna be tough away from the safety of my porch while I await the veridct and risk the sleights of mind from Vade and Patrick and their ilk. I ask myself, is it worth it?]
37 posted on 09/08/2001 8:50:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Paul_E_Ester
US Has Heavily Researched Anti-Gravity, Book Says
If this were true, there'd be a lot of research papers on this and there would be an equivalent to the IEEE organized to review the papers and articles written as well as organize conferences ...

So is there an equivalent organization?

Bet not ...

38 posted on 09/08/2001 8:54:23 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Ken522....and Physicist
the Brassiere/Plastic Surgery cartel is keeping developments in anti-gravity under wraps to prevent dilution of their market share!

That, of course, is one theory which must be investigated. Another is the Scientific/physicist/so-called empiricist/government complex.

Who has the most to gain by telling us how the universe is ordered? The church used to tell us and they gained great power by professing to know the truth. But then a challanger appeared: the empirical cartel raised its ugly head.

And we know the results of that, don't we? We know how well they have done for themselves, don't we?

39 posted on 09/08/2001 8:56:58 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: MHGinTN
What does gravity effect temporally....for us laymen? Actually I wouldn't even mind if you defined temporal. I am note being cute, but would like to know. Been awhile since I got into this heavy stuff.
40 posted on 09/08/2001 8:59:44 PM PDT by TheLion
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