Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

California Considers Granting Illegal Immigrants In-State Tuition Rates
CNS News ^ | September 4, 2001 | John Rossomando

Posted on 09/05/2001 2:50:41 PM PDT by Mercuria

The California Assembly is considering legislation that would extend in-state tuition rates to illegal immigrants who have graduated from California high schools.

Assemblymen Marco Firebaugh (D-Los Angeles) and Abel Maldonado (R-Santa Maria) said their legislation would create a level playing field for all high school graduates in the state, regardless of their immigration status.

The California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR), however, insists billions of dollars are already spent to educate illegal immigrants and that the Firebaugh-Maldonado bill would reward lawbreakers.

"There [are] a great number of students in California that have worked hard academically and have been able to achieve," said Firebaugh's Press Secretary Ricardo Lara. "What we're seeing and hearing is that when the kids graduate from high school, and get accepted to various public colleges and universities throughout the state, [they] are forced to pay three times the tuition rate [compared with in-state students]."

Lara claims that many of the students being granted in-state tuition have come into the country illegally because of their parents rather than their own individual actions.

"The stories that we have been hearing are that a lot of these kids have been here since they were the age of one. Obviously the parents brought them over, so they had no idea that they were undocumented and they had no idea that they were 'illegal'," he said. "We can't blame the kids for what their parents did.

"Since the high schoolers cannot initiate the process of legalization themselves, unless obviously they are over the age of 18," Lara said. "What our thinking is, is that these kids are here for most of their lives, they are not going to go anywhere, so the best we can do is to at least help them get an education."

Lara argues that illegal immigrant students are a lost resource, who would be much better used than high tech workers who are imported from abroad.

"They are not getting any benefits, [and] they still are going to have to pay tuition," he said. "We're putting these students at a higher standard," because these students have to have lived in California for three years and graduated from a California high school, compared to the one-year requirement for out of state residents who move to California.

Mexican-American advocates are pleased with the Firebaugh-Maldonado bill that currently sits in the Appropriations Committee of the California Senate.

"We think it is a good thing that the state is not dealing with immigration law, but dealing with education policy for its state and its students," said Liz Guillen, legislative counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund (MALDEF). "They (illegal immigrants) have been in this state for years.

"The way the bill is written, out-of-state students can get this if they cross the border and attend high school here, so this doesn't [bill] distinguish on the basis of immigration status," she said.

Guillen is confident of the bill's passage because its sponsors have been working with Democratic Gov. Gray Davis's office to craft a bill to the governor's liking.

Guillen shares Lara's belief that granting in-state tuition to illegal immigrants will help make them productive members of society, and limit their need for state social services such as welfare.

"We think that the benefits that the state will enjoy as a result of these students [receiving an] education will be beyond what people are concerned about at the moment," Guillen said.

Davis is waiting to see the final form of the bill before deciding whether to support it, according to his spokesman, Roger Salazar.

However, the bill has stiff opposition from the California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR), which complains that California residents are already required to pay billions of dollars to pay for the education of illegal immigrants.

"The money that we already pay to educate them from K-12 is already in the multi-billions," said CCIR Chairwoman Barbara Coe. "Now we are supposed to stand quietly by and then double or triple it to put them through college. I don't think so.

"You have students from other states who are forced to pay out-of-state tuition while you lawbreakers are given carte blanche, so we oppose it very, very strongly, and we're fighting it as best as we can," she said.

Coe indicates that CCIR would like to legally challenge the bill if Davis signs it into law, but adds that the group does not have enough money to pursue such a lawsuit.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-123 next last
Why should non-citizen LAWBREAKERS receive relief from the extraordinary cost of higher education when out-of-state U.S. CITIZENS receive none?


"The money that we already pay to educate them from K-12 is already in the multi-billions," said CCIR Chairwoman Barbara Coe. "Now we are supposed to stand quietly by and then double or triple it to put them through college. I don't think so."

AMEN.

1 posted on 09/05/2001 2:50:41 PM PDT by Mercuria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: dennisw, Franklin1776,Joe Hadenuf, t-shirt, sarcasm, Brownie74, Bikers4Bush, FITZ, blam, madrussian
BUMP!
2 posted on 09/05/2001 2:51:36 PM PDT by Mercuria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HangFire, DoughtyOne, Willie Green, Either/Or, ex-snook, HalfIrish, Unexpurgated, MissAmericanPie
BUMP!
3 posted on 09/05/2001 2:52:35 PM PDT by Mercuria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Joe Brower, Dick Bachert, junta, glc1173@aol.com, SocialMeltdown, TexasRepublic, healey22,RaceBannon
BUMP!
4 posted on 09/05/2001 2:54:21 PM PDT by Mercuria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
Lara claims that many of the students being granted in-state tuition have come into the country illegally because of their parents rather than their own individual actions.

How absurd. The same can be said of out-of-state students. They didn't make the choice to grow up in another state!

5 posted on 09/05/2001 2:56:33 PM PDT by thesharkboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Guthrum, Arleigh, Dust in the Wind, Pa' fuera, brat, Ohioan, Reformed, Darth Sidious, sheltonmac
BUMP!
6 posted on 09/05/2001 2:57:52 PM PDT by Mercuria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: thesharkboy
BUMP
7 posted on 09/05/2001 2:58:04 PM PDT by proudofthesouth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
This is really stupid. When the state legislature extends the same treatment to out of state legal residents and citizens of other states then it might make sense. Otherwise its giving a certain class of people unwarranted treatment. Especially unwarranted cause they and their parents are here in violation of the laws of this country. Its bad enough Texas passed such legislation but now California? It looks like this is beginning to be a trend. I can't bear the thought...
8 posted on 09/05/2001 2:58:17 PM PDT by goldstategop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
Amazing! What about out-of-state Americans? Can they get the ILLEGAL-IMMIGRANTS In-State Tuition rate also?
9 posted on 09/05/2001 2:59:57 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
Doesn't surprise me. Illegal aliens are a large (and illegal) Democrat voting block.
10 posted on 09/05/2001 3:01:10 PM PDT by aught-6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
The California Assembly is considering legislation that would extend in-state tuition rates to illegal immigrants who have graduated from California high schools.

It is time for us as a nation to do one of two things:

Defend the borders

or

erase the borders.

Nukem

11 posted on 09/05/2001 3:02:06 PM PDT by Alas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
It must be getting really hard for real California conservatives to stomach this stuff.
12 posted on 09/05/2001 3:04:36 PM PDT by Aerial
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Aerial
Getting? It's been so for quite a few years now.
13 posted on 09/05/2001 3:06:58 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
You couldn't get me to move back to my birth state! No amount of $$$$$. I thought it was bad the last year we were there....between both my husband and I declaring -0- dependents for income tax withholding purposes, we would up writing another 1500 check to the State. Which was close to the same period of time that Jarvis' Prop 13 passed.....the taxes on our home went from $1500+ to roughly $530.

We were having problems back then....but nothing of this magnitude....when's the rest of Mexico moving in?

14 posted on 09/05/2001 3:08:48 PM PDT by Rowdee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
We have the same here in Texas, in-state tuition rates for their college education, just passed or was brought up last spring. Another reason I won't vote for Perry. I read a thread last night that said by 2004 whites would be the minority in Texas given all the immigrants total.
15 posted on 09/05/2001 3:09:55 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
BUMP! Heck why don't we just give them the keys to the house and car and move down to Mexico and start over. LMAO
16 posted on 09/05/2001 3:12:20 PM PDT by HEFFERNAN2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HEFFERNAN2
If someone could post the telephone numbers for these idiot assemblymen I would appreciate it very much.
17 posted on 09/05/2001 3:14:40 PM PDT by HEFFERNAN2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
Assemblymen Marco Firebaugh (D-Los Angeles) and Abel Maldonado (R-Santa Maria) said their legislation would create a level playing field for all high school graduates in the state, regardless of their immigration status.

This is Leftist Sociology, full bloom. It reflects all the errors of the 20th Century.

The purpose of having a Government in California is not to create a level playing field between the Califonians and anybody who may happen to show up in their midst. The function of having a Government in California is set forth in the Declaration of Independence. It is to secure the rights of the Californians to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. To tax Californians to subsidize the life style of others is an outrage.

If Assemblymen Firebaugh and Maldonado feel a need to help finance the educations of illegal immigrants, let them do so by private charity.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

18 posted on 09/05/2001 3:29:16 PM PDT by Ohioan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
Why should non-citizen LAWBREAKERS receive relief from the extraordinary cost of higher education when out-of-state U.S. CITIZENS receive none?

They just started this out-of-state nonsense in Texas. Unreal isn't it?

19 posted on 09/05/2001 3:29:31 PM PDT by Brownie74
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mercuria
California is Democrat, all the bitching will not help, they own the state. All we can do is call our representatives and voice opposition. But in the end the democrats will do as they please.
20 posted on 09/05/2001 3:35:21 PM PDT by ontherightside
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-123 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson