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A Foolish NATO Was a Big Loser in the Iran War
American Greatness ^ | 2 Apr, 2026 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 04/02/2026 5:08:30 AM PDT by MtnClimber

NATO endures on American backing while many allies demand U.S. action abroad but withhold it when asked, exposing a widening gap between rhetoric and responsibility.

NATO members are not legally required to join any member’s military operations that are not formally sanctioned by the alliance or not aimed at protecting the homelands of the membership.

But they often do just that.

Some NATO members joined the Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq on the theory that, in the post-9/11 environment, the Taliban and Saddam Hussein were dangers to all Western security.

They followed the precedent set by America’s 1999 intervention in the distant Balkans, leading a three-month NATO campaign to dismantle Slobodan Milošević’s often bloody ambitions of a Greater Serbia. The U.S. also joined the 2011 U.N.-approved, and French- and British-inspired, NATO “coalition of the willing” bombing campaign in Libya.

That effort proved a seven-month misadventure—especially since the targeted Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi had given up his nuclear weapons program and was desperately trying to cut a deal with the West.

When NATO members in the past have operated unilaterally to defend their own national interests, they have often called on the U.S., as NATO’s strongest member, for overt help.

For nearly 40 years, the U.S. had offered logistical, intelligence, reconnaissance, refueling, and diplomatic support to the French in their unilateral and postcolonial efforts to protect Chad from Libya and, later, Islamists.

During the 1982 Falklands War, a solitary Britain faced enormous logistical challenges in steaming halfway around the world to eject Argentina from its windswept and sparse islands.

U.S. aid was critical to the effort.

So America stepped up to help with intelligence, reconnaissance, the supply of some two million gallons of much-needed gasoline, and crucial restocking of Britain’s depleted Tomahawk missiles.

(Excerpt) Read more at amgreatness.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; European Union; Foreign Affairs; France; Germany; Hamas; Hezbollah; Iran; Iraq; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror; Yemen
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1 posted on 04/02/2026 5:08:30 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

If the US leaves then they can add “S” for socialists in their new acronym.


2 posted on 04/02/2026 5:08:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: texas booster

VDH ping


3 posted on 04/02/2026 5:09:47 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

GOOD!

I’m tired of the US providing for all those ingrates.


4 posted on 04/02/2026 5:10:38 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: MtnClimber

Fake NATO and Fake friendships are everywhere.


5 posted on 04/02/2026 5:16:22 AM PDT by FreedBird (c)
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To: MtnClimber

Backstabbers present in NATO. Just like backstabbers in the Democrat Party!


6 posted on 04/02/2026 5:17:12 AM PDT by FreedBird (c)
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To: MtnClimber

The bigger issue here is that NATO hasn’t served any real purpose since the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact governments.


7 posted on 04/02/2026 5:17:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If I leave here, it’s because I’m tired of arguing with geriatric parrots wearing MAGA hats.)
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To: MtnClimber

Reduce our payments to NATO to NO MORE than 2% of GDP. Use the savings to buy or sponsor new weapon development.


8 posted on 04/02/2026 5:24:02 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Hail to Pitt!)
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

Spain contributes 1.28% of GDP to NATO. I say the US should go for 1.25%. Or maybe nothing at all.


9 posted on 04/02/2026 5:25:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

Stop all funding of NATO and say we are going to use it for healthcare, LOL. Watch Europe tie themselves in knots over trying to condemn us.

But for real just leave NATO all together and put it towards fixing the budget.

NATO is a taker only it has become a drag; NATO is a paper tiger and outside of US forces they have no competent force, no different than being on our own which we already are.


10 posted on 04/02/2026 5:27:41 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: MtnClimber

We were warned of “Entangling Alliances”.

Nobodies fault but our own!


11 posted on 04/02/2026 5:27:56 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Islam extends a beggar's palm - whilst hiding the bloody fist! ~ a Minnesotan)
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To: Alberta's Child
Democrat presidents used NATO as their own personal army.

Democratic U.S. presidents have historically utilized NATO to provide multilateral legitimacy and burden-sharing for military actions, particularly when responding to humanitarian crises or regional instability in Europe and North Africa. Key interventions include President Bill Clinton's air campaigns in Bosnia and Kosovo, and President Barack Obama's intervention in Libya.

Bill Clinton Administration (1993–2001)

Bosnia (1995): Following two years of minimal intervention, the Clinton administration pushed NATO to conduct bombing campaigns against Bosnian Serb positions, bringing parties to the bargaining table and establishing the Dayton Peace Accords, which were enforced by a NATO-led peacekeeping force.

Kosovo (1999): President Clinton initiated a 78-day bombing campaign (Operation Allied Force) against Yugoslavia to end "ethnic cleansing" in Kosovo. This was done through NATO without formal United Nations Security Council approval due to potential vetoes from Russia/China.

Barack Obama Administration (2009–2017)

Libya (2011): The Obama administration utilized NATO to spearhead military intervention against Muammar Gaddafi's forces. While the U.S. initially conducted the majority of aerial refueling and surveillance (75% of sorties), leadership was officially transferred to NATO.

European Deterrence (2014): In response to Russia's annexation of Crimea, the Obama administration established the European Deterrence Initiative (EDI) and supported Operation Atlantic Resolve, bolstering NATO's eastern flank with rotational forces

Joe Biden Administration (2021–2025)

Ukraine Response (2022–2024): The Biden administration leveraged NATO to coordinate military aid, logistical support, and sanctions against Russia following the invasion of Ukraine, calling NATO the "greatest military alliance in the history of the world".

Common Trends

Burden Sharing: Democratic presidents have often argued that NATO, rather than acting unilaterally, magnifies U.S. military capabilities, with European allies taking on significant roles.

Humanitarian Focus: Interventions in the Balkans and Libya were characterized as humanitarian missions, aiming to halt atrocities.

War Powers Controversy: Actions under Clinton and Obama sometimes occurred without express congressional approval, with officials arguing that NATO-led missions or "limited" involvement meant authorization was not required.

12 posted on 04/02/2026 5:29:55 AM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: Alberta's Child

Your comment is arguable. I for one am not in favor of the Ukrainian war and initially felt that Russia had ample reason to take over portions of Ukraine that identified more with the Russian culture and language.

And it is possible that once the USSR failed that we could have treated them better and attempted to make them allies rather than enemies. After all, once we defeated Japan and Germany they are now allies with great economies.

What’s changed is the threat of global war with Iran, China and Russia being the new evil axis. With such allies, especially China, this makes Russia a greater threat to Eastern Europe and probably all of Europe. In this respect, NATO does have a purpose.

I now think it’s best to keep the Russians occupied in Ukraine. Any peace deal would enable the Ruskies to replenish their military assets and be a greater threat to all of Europe and possibly the USA.


13 posted on 04/02/2026 5:36:02 AM PDT by redfreedom (The Forth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: FreedBird

Trump made it clear that Americans aren’t going to foot the bill for NATO, or worse that worthless UN. All of the countries know how much of the GDP is to be paid yearly. Only America was doing it. The “Kick Me” sign is off the American taxpayer’s backs.


14 posted on 04/02/2026 5:38:45 AM PDT by healy61
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IT would require congress to get out of NATO which will never happen. We should just stop wasting money on it and say “well if you get invaded we will help out” since thats really never going to happen. I mean besides being invaded by 3rd muslim hordes but thats what those governments want anyways.


15 posted on 04/02/2026 5:43:43 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: MtnClimber

Time for America to dump the third worlders at NATO and the UN. Those people all are worthless.


16 posted on 04/02/2026 5:57:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Illegally "born in the U.S." doesn't make you an American. It makes you a thieving ANCHOR BABY. )
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To: Alberta's Child

**The bigger issue here is that NATO hasn’t served any real purpose since the collapse of the Soviet Union.**
Poland and the Baltics may disagree.

** I for one am not in favor of the Ukrainian war and initially felt that Russia had ample reason to take over portions of Ukraine that identified more with the Russian culture and language.**
Something tells me those people would be better off with the EU.

**Reduce our payments to NATO to NO MORE than 2% of GDP. Use the savings to buy or sponsor new weapon development.**
We get 2 weeks vacation per year. They get a month. Are we paying for that?

**I now think it’s best to keep the Russians occupied in Ukraine. Any peace deal would enable the Ruskies to replenish their military assets and be a greater threat to all of Europe and possibly the USA.**
It took 2 and a half years between Dec. 7 and Normandy to invade. In the meantime we all let Stalin. and the Nazis carve each other up. They might need those weapons against the Chicoms.

**We were warned of “Entangling Alliances”.**
Don’t forget the military industrial complex. Might be a good thing to have when you look at how effective our weapons are. We’ll always have to stay on top. Think of the Nazis that worked for us in the Cold War.


17 posted on 04/02/2026 5:59:52 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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UK, France , Spain.. we will never ever support their defense again. Let the backstabbers GTH as long as their current regimes are in power. Thrn we can look and see


18 posted on 04/02/2026 6:05:08 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: MtnClimber

In every single action cited in this piece where NATO members cooperated, there was one essential difference from the current conflict: the common courtesy of consulting allies before initiating hostilities.


19 posted on 04/02/2026 6:17:58 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell)
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To: OldHarbor
I think it goes beyond that. I have long understood that NATO involvement in these stupid military campaigns has been primarily a part of selling the campaigns in the domestic political environments of the various nations involved (especially the U.S.). This is something I've noticed since the first Bush administration. When the U.S. wants to embark on a military adventure in some Third World sh!t-hole for its own reasons, the pattern seems pretty consistent:

1. Try to get the United Nations Security Council to adopt a resolution against Country X, and then sell the military action as a necessary mechanism to enforce it. "This isn't something the U.S. wants to do, but we have obligations under our United Nations commitment to do it."

2. If the U.N. Security Council doesn't go along with this (due to a veto by Russia or China, for example), then turn it into a NATO problem. "This isn't something the U.S. wants to do, but we have obligations to our NATO partners that require us to get involved."

3. If NATO has no interest, then we just do it ourselves with anyone who wants to be involved (or nobody at all).

We have now reached the comical, and pathetic next step after #3 ...

4. Pretend NATO has some kind of vested interest in the military campaign after the fact, and whine about them publicly for failing to get involved in a military campaign we excluded them from in the first place.

20 posted on 04/02/2026 6:21:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If I leave here, it’s because I’m tired of arguing with geriatric parrots wearing MAGA hats.)
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