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Charlie Kirk, Martyr
American Mind ^ | 09.11.2025 | Joshua Treviño

Posted on 09/11/2025 5:34:27 AM PDT by Heartlander

Charlie Kirk, Martyr

“For they killed him in his kindness.”

This is who they chose to kill: the affable man whose main act was having good-faith political debates with college students. The man who, since fatherhood, was turning more toward Christianity as both a purpose and a theme. He was a partisan to be sure, but he was nowhere near the outer limits of the American tradition, especially given his relentless fixation on Lincolnian persuasion as a stabilizing force in a slowly disintegrating polity. The ones who kept losing debates with him didn’t feel that way, of course, but they were only the instrument, not the object, of his work. The object was the millions of Americans who watched, learned, and saw who won again and again—and decided that they wished to side with the winner.

In this way, Charlie Kirk was perhaps the closest thing to Socrates in the American public square. The leftist intellectuals who sneered at him—the rube peddling his simple lines, his crass sophistry, his heartland aw-shucks certainties—would guffaw at the parallel, but it is no less true. He argued—amiably, fairly, relentlessly—until they couldn’t stand it any longer. And like Socrates, they had him killed.

Also like Socrates, his students will now do more for his cause after his martyrdom than they ever did during his life. The Socratic vindication was in his deification through literature at the pens of Plato and Xenophon. Millennia later, everyone remembers the philosopher, but vanishingly few know who ended his life.

The armies of Charlie Kirk, martyr, will be much more vast: not a handful of Athenians but millions of Americans. Their work will not be in philosophical literature but in the politics of the years to come. Whatever benefit accrues to the Republican Party is merely incidental. We are now in the realm of fundamental politics, which is concerned with the nature of the nation and the wielding of power for the common good. The generation of Americans that Charlie Kirk molded will be drawing conclusions about both from his life and his death alike.

This may mean that the art of persuasion to which Kirk dedicated his public life experiences a revival. Perhaps an entire generation turns wholly from the Left and tradition, conservatism, and the Right become for the first time in a century the vanguard of the youth’s future. Millions of Kirk’s disciples may conclude that no politics is possible with an antagonist that reserves murder as its redoubt when argument fails.

None of these conclusions would be wrong.

When those conclusions are reached, the movement that helped precipitate Charlie Kirk’s murder may realize its error. They may finally understand that Kirk, Trump, and everyone else whom they hate with a blinding, intense passion were the moderates, the ones they could live with, the ones who didn’t wish to eradicate them. They may tell tales to their children of a time when the ascendant Right was perfectly happy to have a debate. They may say they wish it had never happened, that they weren’t for killing the man, that a lone extremist with a rifle was in no way representative of the whole.

When they do, we will remind them that on the day Charlie Kirk was assassinated, leftist members of the United States House of Representatives objected to a moment of prayer on his behalf.

What happens next has several templates, some more probable than others. There is the hunt for the shooter. Then there is the reckoning for what created him—a reckoning that’s long overdue.

We have too many martyrs now. Before Kirk there was a president who nearly suffered the same fate. Before Kirk there was a woman who just wanted to ride the train home. Before Kirk there were little children at Mass, praying as a killer opened fire.

American liberty requires sacrifice, and it requires martyrdom too. But the martyrs in our tradition should be afforded the choice of their fate. We celebrate the men of the Alamo and Corregidor. We find by contrast something horrific and unjust in death unsought and undesired. One is war, the other is crime.

Charlie Kirk chased the better angels of our nature. His killers herald the end of angel-chasing. What’s left is Melville:

For they killed him in his kindness,

In their madness and their blindness.

And his blood is on their hand.

There is sobbing of the strong,

And a pall upon the land;

But the People in their weeping

Bare the iron hand:

Beware the People weeping

When they bare the iron hand.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: charliekirk
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1 posted on 09/11/2025 5:34:27 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

Amen.


2 posted on 09/11/2025 5:44:27 AM PDT by exnavy (See article IV section 4 of our constitution.)
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To: Heartlander

Wow. Very strong reference to Melville.


3 posted on 09/11/2025 5:47:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: Heartlander

Watch his videos. The killers wanted to silence his voice. Let us instead amplify it.


4 posted on 09/11/2025 5:55:58 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: Heartlander

Excellent post. Thank you. Charlie was a gift that only God could give.


5 posted on 09/11/2025 6:14:35 AM PDT by Faith
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To: cmj328
Charlie Kirk - A Call to Courage and Virtue
6 posted on 09/11/2025 6:33:49 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”

- Yamamoto

Let loose the Iron Hand...


7 posted on 09/11/2025 7:08:37 AM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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To: Heartlander

HE would have been an outstanding USA President


8 posted on 09/11/2025 7:18:29 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Heartlander

The Incredible Articulation of Charles James Kirk

September 11, 2025 | Sundance 

Sadly, I had not seen this video until after he was assassinated and it was shared on social media.  That said, the intellectual capacity, the gift of articulation carried within the vessel Charlie Kirk represented, is evident in this video segment.

This is a remarkable exhibition of a skillset that will be exceptionally difficult to replace.  

WATCH:

Link to X video

Listen to his brilliant answer that I think upset
the powers… 
pic.twitter.com/taRONn5Hgq  

Dan Dicks (@DanDicksPFTSeptember 11, 2025


9 posted on 09/11/2025 7:21:38 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Heartlander

Yes. CHARLIE IS AN AMERICAN STEPHEN.


10 posted on 09/11/2025 7:45:03 AM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Heartlander
a lone extremist with a rifle was in no way representative of the whole.

Lone extremist. Yeah.

11 posted on 09/11/2025 7:51:35 AM PDT by workerbee
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To: Bratch

This is probably the best articulation of the evidence that America was founded as a Christian nation that I’ve ever heard.

I’m only now hearing it because Charlie Kirk was martyred.

This may turn out to be the most significant result of his death—that he can no longer be silenced but will be heard more now than he would have ever been otherwise.


12 posted on 09/11/2025 9:04:58 AM PDT by unlearner (I'm tired of being not tired of winning.)
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To: Bratch; Prov1322; CondoleezzaProtege; Faith; rlmorel; lightman; Bigg Red; RoosterRedux; ...

Thank you, Bratch, for this wonderful video; it’s a keeper.

Ping, FRiends!


13 posted on 09/12/2025 9:15:08 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (RIP, Charlie. Say hi to Andrew Breitbart...you were of the same caliber. Justice for Charlie Kirk!)
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To: Albion Wilde

Listening now.

Thanks for the ping.


14 posted on 09/12/2025 9:23:16 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know The Truth, and The Truth Shall Make You Free.)
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To: Bratch

My emotions are so conflicted between sadness and anger...
I pray that there is someone that can step forward and continue the work Charlie did, but I have never seen anyone as good at it as Charlie.


15 posted on 09/12/2025 9:26:59 AM PDT by Bikkuri (We are all Charlie now. I am Charlie!)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thx for the ping!!


16 posted on 09/12/2025 9:43:52 AM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Bratch; Albion Wilde
Outstanding post Bratch thanks for sharing, and thank you Albion Wilde for the ping.

I sent this out to my friends, who I am sure will also send it out to their friends, and hopefully it will reach far & wide.

This exemplifies why Charlie Kirk was so very special & most likely will be unreplaceable as far as being so extremely influential.

😁👍

17 posted on 09/12/2025 9:57:37 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Bratch

I saw that clip a few times yesterday. It’s too bad we can’t have those same standards in politics today.

I’ve posted before that for the most part RCs were prohibited to serve in early America but have been called a liar. Maybe they’ll believe Charlie.


18 posted on 09/12/2025 10:04:28 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Heartlander

If they do this to the green tree what do you think they will do to the dry tree.


19 posted on 09/12/2025 10:28:55 AM PDT by mware
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To: Bikkuri

What is amazing is that he would not have been old enough to run for president in the next election. I do think if not killed he would have been our 49th president.


20 posted on 09/12/2025 10:32:29 AM PDT by mware
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