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Trump Taps Palantir to Create Database on Americans
NY Times ^ | May 30, 2025 | Sheera Frenkel and Aaron Krolik

Posted on 06/01/2025 6:31:00 AM PDT by DoodleBob

In March, President Donald Trump signed an executive order calling for the federal government to share data across agencies, raising questions over whether he might compile a master list of personal information on Americans that could give him untold surveillance power.

Trump has not publicly talked about the effort since. But behind the scenes, officials have quietly put technological building blocks into place to enable his plan. In particular, they have turned to one company: Palantir, the data analysis and technology firm.

The Trump administration has expanded Palantir’s work across the federal government in recent months. The company has received more than $113 million in federal government spending since Trump took office, according to public records, including additional funds from existing contracts as well as new contracts with the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon. (This does not include a $795 million contract that the Department of Defense awarded the company last week, which has not been spent.)

Representatives of Palantir are also speaking to at least two other agencies — the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service — about buying its technology, according to six government officials and Palantir employees with knowledge of the discussions.

The push has put a key Palantir product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies, including DHS and the Health and Human Services Department. Widely adopting Foundry, which organizes and analyzes data, paves the way for Trump to easily merge information from different agencies, the government officials said.

Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream. The Trump administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases, including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims and any disability status.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aaronkrolik; palantir; paranoia; sheerafrenkel; surveillance
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Yea, I know….the Times.

This could simply be about concatenating databases.

But if the main guardrail is the party in power, it’s a Bad Thing.

1 posted on 06/01/2025 6:31:00 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

One can’t tell much from this article except it is a shallow hit piece. My educated guess is the administration is modernizing some of these antiquated systems which happen to contain information on Americans. No surprise there. Probably much ado about nothing.


2 posted on 06/01/2025 6:36:06 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: DoodleBob

I guess Trump would be the first to do this...have files on every American.

LOL, the Chinese have had the same on Americans for AT LEAST a decade now.


3 posted on 06/01/2025 6:36:26 AM PDT by BobL
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To: DoodleBob

If Democrats were doing this the NYT would hail it as a giant step toward greater efficiency in government.


4 posted on 06/01/2025 6:36:47 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DoodleBob

Don’t they already have a data base called Social security number.


5 posted on 06/01/2025 6:37:19 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: DoodleBob

Like Snap sharing data with IRS? Or other programs that show the tremendous FRAUD going on?


6 posted on 06/01/2025 6:39:39 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Democracy to Democrats is stealing other peoples money for their use, no matter how idiotic)
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To: plain talk

A lot of government systems already talk to one another, but through interfaces that are not necessarily the best way to share information and cut down on redundancy and duplication.


7 posted on 06/01/2025 6:39:49 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DoodleBob

Yea, I know….the Times. Yet, NYT tripe continues to be posted by several when it is known to be a DNC rag. It is just an attempt to fill bandwidth and waste time.


8 posted on 06/01/2025 6:39:55 AM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: BobL

It’s like a real life version of “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”.


9 posted on 06/01/2025 6:40:45 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: DoodleBob

Freedom was cool. Remember what it was like in the old days? Before everything was information and managerial-based? Trump is probably undoing a lot of fraud, but at the same time we are racing towards a highly organized and regimented society. Also a complete stripping away of any privacy.

And this palantir guy is filthy and said every vestige of privacy should be stripped away to force people to act the way they should.
His program was started by the CIA venture capital firm. Trumps weakness is that he sees everything in terms of money, and success. If you’re successful when you make a lot of money, he is likely to throw his support towards you. It’s a Blindspot he has.


10 posted on 06/01/2025 6:48:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….)
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To: Starboard; BobL; plain talk
How’d you feel if this was the story and it was 2021?

In March, President Joe Biden signed an executive order calling for the federal government to share data across agencies, raising questions over whether he might compile a master list of personal information on Americans that could give him untold surveillance power.

Biden has not publicly talked about the effort since. But behind the scenes, officials have quietly put technological building blocks into place to enable his plan. Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream. The Biden administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases, including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims and any disability status.

11 posted on 06/01/2025 6:51:49 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DesertRhino

Wow, this is really unexpected but so worth it, I’m glad I own quite a bit of shares since I know Nancy poloseit double up on it months ago.


12 posted on 06/01/2025 6:55:32 AM PDT by VAFreedom (Wuhan Pneumonia-Made by CCP, Copyright Xi Jingping)
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How about get a warrant on each person that Pres. Trump wants to put in his "data base"?

As per the 4th Amendment.

How about NOT spending any more money?

How about some MASSIVE spending cuts instead?

Before our money becomes positively Zimbabwean?

How about some arrests, trials, and convictions of people who defrauded the Gov for decades? How about making a disincentive for fraud by some significant punishments for people who did it?

13 posted on 06/01/2025 6:58:10 AM PDT by caddie (Always laugh at your own jokes. Other people can't be counted on.)
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To: DoodleBob

The NYT is “reporting” about the “raising of concerns” that Trump may be perhaps doing something sinister as he implements seemingly benign policies?....translation, the NYT wants to bash Trump again but lacks any grounds beyond speculation.


14 posted on 06/01/2025 7:17:54 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: DoodleBob

Data already is shared between many agencies. That’s just a fact. The problem then becomes how to do it better, faster, cheaper and with presumably greater security. Eventually at some point this will happen. Of course once that’s done then any administration could apply AI and abuse it.


15 posted on 06/01/2025 7:20:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: AndyTheBear

+1

You are precisely right.


16 posted on 06/01/2025 7:21:06 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DoodleBob

Not allowing consolidation across different aspects of Government is what allowed rampant fraud and abuse. This initiative sounds long overdue.


17 posted on 06/01/2025 7:21:29 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: DoodleBob

I would be shocked the NYT would have made a “raising concerns” nonsense attack on a Democrat President.


18 posted on 06/01/2025 7:22:10 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: DoodleBob

It’s fine to have a surveillance state that has the ability to monitor every thought and action of its people, and has the unchecked ability to send armed thugs without any identifying information out to arrest people without any judicial oversight and do with them whatever they damn well please. Nothing bad can possibly ever come from this.


19 posted on 06/01/2025 7:22:34 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: DoodleBob

At the least, even with the disiprate factoids which the article provides no basis for connecting, the articles content doesn’t match the headline. Just awful work presented as journalism.


20 posted on 06/01/2025 7:24:47 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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