Posted on 04/20/2025 10:24:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Chinese researchers have successfully detonated a hydrogen-based explosive device in a controlled field test, triggering devastating chemical chain reactions without using any nuclear materials, according to a study published last month. The 2kg (4.4lbs) bomb generated a fireball exceeding 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,832 degrees Fahrenheit) for more than two seconds – 15 times longer than equivalent TNT blasts – without using any nuclear materials, it said.
Developed by the China State Shipbuilding Corporation’s (CSSC) 705 Research Institute, a key player in underwater weapon systems, the device uses a magnesium-based solid-state hydrogen storage material.
Chinese researchers have successfully detonated a hydrogen-based explosive device in a controlled field test, triggering devastating chemical chain reactions without using any nuclear materials, according to a study published last month. The 2kg (4.4lbs) bomb generated a fireball exceeding 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,832 degrees Fahrenheit) for more than two seconds – 15 times longer than equivalent TNT blasts – without using any nuclear materials, it said.
Developed by the China State Shipbuilding Corporation’s (CSSC) 705 Research Institute, a key player in underwater weapon systems, the device uses a magnesium-based solid-state hydrogen storage material.
The new technology centers on the use of magnesium hydride (MgH2), a white or silvery crystalline powder that's capable of storing an outsize amount of hydrogen.
The material and its extraordinary solid-state storage potential originally piqued scientists' interest for a peaceful purpose: transporting hydrogen to off-grid locations for use generating clean energy and heat by way of fuel cells. Magnesium hydride's storage capacity is far superior to pressurized tanks. The material is also of interest to scientists in the field of spacecraft propulsion.
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All known FAE use two stage systems. A low brilliance bursting charge followed by a 100-300 microseconds delay and a high brilliance material initiator charge from behind the main component it is usually ejected backwards into the expanding cloud by the bursting charge so when it goes off 160 microseconds after the burst charge it’s in the near center of the cloud. This is how our FAEs work and Russia’s too we even made cluster FAEs with three stage systems the first charge blows the three tanks into a triangle or eclipse then each does a two stage event. Diabolical stuff.
You keep using the word “brilliance”,,,I believe the correct term would be “brisance”.
Lithium cells couldn’t support a detonation they are sealed and there is not enough oxygen in them to reach the detonation limits. If you drastically oovercharged them they would eventually vent as the safety vents popped you probably if there was a spark or thermal runaway end up with a heck of an electrolyte fire as they are flammable and all of the gases are flammable except CO2 from carbonate electrolytes. It is hard to detonate a mixed gas mixture without a initiation shockwave. If it was as easy as mixing hydrogen and oxygen at random amounts every hydrogen combustion engine would detonate every combustion cycle. Cummins has it’s X15 in commercial production it’s spark ignition and it runs a wide range of H2 / O2 ratios some of them are smack in the middle of the detonation range for H2. Same for scramjets they are super hard to light off sparks won’t do supersonic combustion waves you need plasma or lasers since having TNT in your scramjet is a bad look.
Here is a group that has the exact chemical comp of lithium cells charged way past failure with all the mass spectrometry goodness. Hydrogen burns better than it detonates over a much wider range too.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666016420300104
This sounds like a form of thermite
Yeah stupid auto complete I didn’t even notice it was auto complete every time I start with bri to brilliance vs brisance.
Hyoersonic shockwave vs supersonic is the important point. To propagate a FAE in air you need to burst the material with something like smokeless powder then set the cloud off with TNT or better RDX
Bill Clinton gave them multiple vehicles reentry tech.
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It was not multiple vehicles reentry tech.
His gift via Loral was a pinpoint guidance logic board & was relatively a minor gift.
His biggest gift was to the Chinese Navy which was allowed on all ships - with no compartments off limits to Chinese Navy personnel. All operations were observed and noted, and then incorporated into PLAN operations and shipbuilding, especially aircraft carrier operations and submarine propulsion.
His 2nd biggest gift was a miniaturized klystron switch which allowed the mounting of a smaller thermonuclear warhead on Chinese ICBMS. Prior to that Chinese thermonuclear weapons were huge and heavy, precluding mounting on missiles.
The traitor Clinton gave them every secret he could lay his hands on for cash donations in the name of the Third Way [ a modern version of communism to which the Clintons ascribed, secrets given under the theory that, if the Chinese had the same military tech, they would not attack the US or be hostile ].
“It is hard to detonate a mixed gas mixture without a initiation shockwave.”
Tell that to all the Propane or Acetylene + Oxygen Cannons I have played with over the years. All it takes is the right mixture and a spark or flame source to set off an EXTREMELY violent explosion in that container. I have shot bowling balls a couple hundred yards with gas mixtures in these Cannons...
“If it was as easy as mixing hydrogen and oxygen at random amounts every hydrogen combustion engine would detonate every combustion cycle.”
This I understand very well, and it does, it is supposed to... That is the object and goal of the combustion cycle.
“This sounds like a form of thermite.”
Exactly right...
That is what I was thinking. Magnesium and Aluminum Oxide and some ferrous material will burn like literal hell. Toss in a can of hydrogen and it will go “boom.”
I believe you mean the neutron bomb.
A fusion weapon (aka a nuclear hydrogen bomb, in contrast to the conventional weapon at issue here) is a giant blast of fire. Think Bikini island.
Well, that could certainly add something to the overall affect.
Liquid hydrogen and oxygen does pretty well for itself.
The ‘trick’ is getting the hydrogen to stay still long enough for the explosion to ignite.
Also, long term storage is a problem, as hydrogen constantly leaves the storage container.
So to use it, filling with hydrogen immediately before use would be necessary....................
It vaguely sounds like a mix of thermite with a fuel air bomb.
I’m not seeing anything particularly revolutionary here unless it’s a lot cheaper to make.
A bunch of these in a cluster would burn up the target very efficiently.
Johnny Carson said that bomb was designed to kill all of the people and leave the cigarette machines in working order.
Oh. That is an interesting wrinkle.
Thanks for the GROK piece
We must become accustomed to more and more GROK here at Free Republic as we attempt to grok the reality around us
Oops, clicked the wrong video source...
Yup
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