Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Critics Say Bystanders Stood by While Illegal Migrant Allegedly Burned Woman to Death on NYC Subway: ‘Daniel Penny Effect’
New York Post ^

Posted on 12/23/2024 5:49:09 PM PST by nickcarraway

New Yorkers were up in arms Monday one day after an illegal Guatemalan immigrant allegedly burned a sleeping straphanger to death aboard a Brooklyn subway train — while bystanders did nothing.

Horrifying video footage of the incident shows at least three gawkers — one of them seen filming the shocking fatal blaze on his phone — and an NYPD cop standing outside the subway car as flames engulfed the unidentified victim after the Sunday morning attack.n Nobody came to her aid,” said Guardian Angels founder and community activist Curtis Sliwa. “There’s no doubt that people don’t want to get involved. It’s the Daniel Penny factor. It’s frozen people. They’re saying to themselves: ‘I don’t want to get jammed up like Penny.

“People should have been running over to the woman on fire. They did nothing. They said nothing,” Sliwa said, calling the reluctance of bystanders to intervene “the Daniel Penny effect.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: danielpennyeffect
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-74 next last

1 posted on 12/23/2024 5:49:09 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

It’s also a norm to stand by and do nothing, unless somebody steps forward. Then everybody steps forward.


2 posted on 12/23/2024 5:50:26 PM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

It’s also a norm to stand by and do nothing, unless somebody steps forward. Then everybody steps forward.

Critics who say that the removal of the second amendment will result in people nobly stepping forward to lend a hand are talking out of thin air.


3 posted on 12/23/2024 5:51:21 PM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Nothing new here. The Kitty Genovese mentality still reigns supreme.


4 posted on 12/23/2024 5:53:49 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Even the police walked past her, which is also scary. I am so glad I don’t live in NYC.


5 posted on 12/23/2024 5:54:59 PM PST by KittyKares
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

I find it curious that no article that I’ve read about this incident has any information regarding the victim.


6 posted on 12/23/2024 5:56:23 PM PST by sjmjax
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Responsibility2nd

“”The Kitty Genovese mentality still reigns supreme.””

THAT did come to mind....


7 posted on 12/23/2024 5:56:45 PM PST by Thank You Rush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

said Guardian Angels founder and community activist Curtis Sliwa. “


seeing more about the guardian angels in the news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Angels


8 posted on 12/23/2024 5:58:13 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Many of them were probably taking selfies.


9 posted on 12/23/2024 5:59:52 PM PST by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Maybe all the bystanders were illegals and it’s normal to see people burning in their countries.
All the good Christians were at Sunday Mass...


10 posted on 12/23/2024 6:01:56 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop ( ~~ TRUMP is right about EVERYTHING ! ~~ )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sjmjax

Agreed. And I’m having trouble processing in my mind how she burned to death from someone throwing a lit match onto her clothes. I get that she was sleeping. Was she too drugged up to feel the pain and take her burning coat or whatever off? Unless the whole train car caught on fire and she couldn’t escape, I’m having trouble with how this happened.


11 posted on 12/23/2024 6:02:09 PM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

So did the cops.

Fire them. Yesterday. No pension.


12 posted on 12/23/2024 6:02:23 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Nessun Dorma.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sjmjax

True. What are they hiding?


13 posted on 12/23/2024 6:06:33 PM PST by Angelino97
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: sjmjax; Angelino97

https://x.com/Huberton/status/1871246341961093506


14 posted on 12/23/2024 6:10:35 PM PST by stonehouse01
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: sjmjax

They don’t want to let anyone know it was a young whote woman going to college hoping to get a PhD in social studies. The left is out in full force with their talking heads assuming the victim was some druggie passed out. It is becoming more and more acceptable to murder successful white people.


15 posted on 12/23/2024 6:12:30 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Much like what happened to Kitty Genovese in 1964 NYC. No one came to her aid. In the last 60 years the public has learned not to get involved due to themselves being killed, injured or arrested. And God Help You if you pull a gun on the Perp in NYC!


16 posted on 12/23/2024 6:12:34 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

When you live in a part of the country run by Democrats.
You know they will come after you if you try to help someone.
The cops know you will get off criminally, after they destroyed your bank account.
You won’t be in jail, but you will be broke.
SOP for Cops.


17 posted on 12/23/2024 6:21:26 PM PST by rellic (no such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

The perpetrator is a person of color. If a white person intervened, they would be arrested and prosecuted.


18 posted on 12/23/2024 6:23:04 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tell It Right
Unless the whole train car caught on fire and she couldn’t escape, I’m having trouble with how this happened.

One article (NYPost or Daily Mail) claimed that a walker can be seen in some photos/images. That and the victim probably in absolute chaos could have hampered an attempt to escape.

The question of how the ignition spread so rapidly -- perhaps the perp shook alcohol on her before lighting the fire. He was said to be drunk when apprehended.

19 posted on 12/23/2024 6:23:36 PM PST by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Responsibility2nd
The Kitty Genovese mentality still reigns supreme.

Don't let the enemy control the narrative. The lie that people ignored the pleas of Kitty Genovese and the fictitious "bystander effect" was spread by the propaganda media and the police to cover up that the police screwed up and that New York City had declined so far as to be a dump. The New York Times sold a filthy lie.

https://nypost.com/2014/02/16/book-reveals-real-story-behind-the-kitty-genovese-murder/

20 posted on 12/23/2024 6:24:57 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-74 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson