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As Assad's power crumbles, Turkey, Iran and Russia disagree on way forward for Syria: Foreign powers urge opposition groups to end fighting and preserve single, united country at talks in Qatar
Guardian (UK) ^ | Saturday, December 7, 2024 | Patrick Wintour in Doha

Posted on 12/08/2024 4:13:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Meeting on the margins of the Doha Forum, in Qatar, Turkey, Russia, and Iran urged the Syrian opposition to heed the call to end the fighting and to preserve Syria as an integrated and united country.

Amid reports that Russian diplomats are fleeing Damascus in the face of the lightning opposition advance...

Earlier this year, Assad had refused to speak to Turkey so long as Turkish forces remained in Syria. This refusal led the President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to give the implicit green light to militant group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) last month to mount its stunningly successful attacks on Aleppo, and more recently into the city of Homs.

With Assad's 24-year grip on power faltering, the Syrian leader will have no option but to make concessions to Turkey on the Kurdish issue. Ankara is convinced that the Syrian YPG, fighting under the flag of the Syrian Defence Forces and backed by the US, is the same as the Turkish Kurdish group, the PKK...

But there is no guarantee that Turkey can control the Islamist HTS, or simply order the group to end an offensive that has proved far more effective than even the HTS expected...

Russia has one of its largest military bases outside the former Soviet Union in Hmeimim, and a prized naval port in Tartus, two assets it will be desperate to retain.

US administration officials, also wary of the speed with which Islamist groups were seizing land, had initially said they still expected Assad to remain part of the process.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Iran; Qatar; Russia; Syria
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People wave a Syrian opposition flag after opposition fighters took control of the city of Hama, Syria, on 7 December
Photograph: Mohammed Al Rifai/EPA
Photograph: Mohammed Al Rifai/EPA

1 posted on 12/08/2024 4:13:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
File under, 'careful what you wish for'.

From the "syria" keyword (only back to August) and news topic (only back to May), duplicates out, sorted:

2 posted on 12/08/2024 4:15:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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I've been on-decking a possible topic, pertains to the next expansion of the ongoing, generations-long conflicts among and within predominantly muzzie regimes, as well as with their neighbors (Greece, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel).
Pop.GDP (billions)per capitagrowth yoy
Armenia (2022)2,880,874$19.5$4,93312.2%
Azerbaijan (2022)10,295,304$78.7$5,5074.0%
Cyprus (2022)1,331,370$28.4$20,2375.63%
Greece (2022)10,412,480$219$20,4667.6%
Georgia (2022)3,794,784$24.6$5,3079.9%
Israel (2022)9,103,151$522$44,6884.6%
Lebanon (2020)5,702,398$31.7$6,441-20.1%
Syria (no GDP avail.)22,462,173
Turkey (2022)87,058,473$905.9$13,7155.1%
(source worldometers.info)

3 posted on 12/08/2024 4:19:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Don’t get involved! Let Syria break up.


4 posted on 12/08/2024 4:26:49 AM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: arkfreepdom
The nice thing about a muzzie civil war is, everyone wins.

5 posted on 12/08/2024 4:30:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yay! Everyone gets a participation trophy!


6 posted on 12/08/2024 4:32:45 AM PST by Enterprise (These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I disagree with the headlines experts.

Syria needs to be at least 3 countries. The world needs more countries not fewer


7 posted on 12/08/2024 4:51:03 AM PST by Fai Mao (The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts for pedophiles and perverts)
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To: SunkenCiv

Assad is getting Khaddafied as soon as they find him.


8 posted on 12/08/2024 5:05:39 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Drill Baby Drill!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Syria has become a tar baby.


9 posted on 12/08/2024 5:07:59 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Fai Mao

The world needs borders.

Countries without borders are countries in name only.


10 posted on 12/08/2024 5:09:10 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Fai Mao; arkfreepdom; Enterprise
There could/should be a single independent Kurdistan, which would come out of Turkish, Iranian, Iraqi, and Syrian territory. Some small number of the 34.5 million Kurds live (possibly as refugees?) in Armenia; speaking of which, Nagorno-Karabakh should be part of Armenia. Alas, it won't get there without either a lot of bloodshed (and maybe not even then) or a sea change in attitudes among all concerned.

11 posted on 12/08/2024 5:14:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: mewzilla

Smaller countries are more homogeneous and stable


12 posted on 12/08/2024 5:16:39 AM PST by Fai Mao (The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts for pedophiles and perverts)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; mewzilla

13 posted on 12/08/2024 5:20:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: arkfreepdom

Time for the USA to disengage from that sh*thole.


14 posted on 12/08/2024 5:22:49 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: SunkenCiv

Anytime a regime changes hands I assume CIA was behind it with the next leader being no better or even far worse.


15 posted on 12/08/2024 5:25:07 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: arkfreepdom
Let Syria break up.

Interesting observation. Perhaps the "Palestinians" can claim some of Syria's land and leave Israel alone for once.

16 posted on 12/08/2024 5:27:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

A very good idea. Give Gaza and WB back to Israel and give the Palis 1/4 of the eastern part of Syria.


17 posted on 12/08/2024 5:53:35 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: SunkenCiv

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4283201/posts?page=21#21


18 posted on 12/08/2024 7:12:33 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: arkfreepdom
Don’t get involved! Let Syria break up.

Trump is right. Let it play out. Syria was an artifical nation state established by the French before WWI.

19 posted on 12/08/2024 7:18:19 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: arkfreepdom
Meaning Turkey as the winner?
20 posted on 12/08/2024 7:33:29 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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