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Election guru Nate Silver accuses pollsters of putting ‘finger on the scale,’ lying to keep presidential race close
NY Post ^ | 11/01/2024 | Josh Christenson

Posted on 11/01/2024 6:42:04 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: woodbutcher1963

That’s how it is every year for Cowboys fans......................


41 posted on 11/01/2024 7:14:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: MMusson

Nope. There aren’t enough screaming single harpies in the world.


42 posted on 11/01/2024 7:15:03 AM PDT by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: MMusson

“Will scaremongering Abortion take the Presidency?”

That is the big question, IMO.

If abortion trumps everything else for GOP women voters, Kamala will win.

If not, and they stay loyal to the GOP, it us hard to envision a scenario where Trump loses - even with the massive cheating we know is occurring.


43 posted on 11/01/2024 7:15:18 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Trump trumps Hate)
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To: dfwgator

“There was no enthusiasm for Romney, it was just people who wanted to vote against Obama.”

Good point.


44 posted on 11/01/2024 7:15:27 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Yep
Called weighting. Pollster expects more dems are going to vote, more democrat responses are going to be reported
Rush talked about this a lot
Lies, Damn Lies, Statistics, and Polls
Now there are four kinds of lies


45 posted on 11/01/2024 7:17:23 AM PDT by TStro (Come and take it!)
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To: Red Badger
People who don't click the link will miss the real headline from this article:

"Silver’s own vaunted model puts Trump ahead of Harris, 55% to 45%, as voters prepare to head to the polls in just three days."

46 posted on 11/01/2024 7:18:19 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Nate doesn’t even do polling now that he left 538.

He is into turning all the polls into aggregates and using them as betting lines in his new gig.

Like point spreads in football games, nothing is predictive of actual outcomes anymore, polls are defunct.


47 posted on 11/01/2024 7:18:33 AM PDT by baclava
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Let’s start with this. Nate Silver is a huge fraud. He was supposedly some gambling guru and failed so miserably at that that you would have lost money following his advice. He then decided to hop over into political polling. He’s miserably bad at that too.

Democrat push polls try to create a narrative that the Democrat is up big. They do this to discourage donations to the Republican and to try to discourage their voters from showing up aka voter suppression. When it gets closer to the election, they start getting closer to the truth in order to try to preserve their credibility for next time. Its really embarrassing when you say Biden is up 17% in Wisconsin and the race gets decided by less than 1%.


48 posted on 11/01/2024 7:19:51 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Lurker

Better to wait until Wednesday morning
The night of the 2020 election, Trump was up a half-million votes
Watching TV, about 2 a.m., suddenly 10,000 votes switched from Trump to Biden. On the screen behind the talking head. Then the same thing happened. This went on all night, until Trump was behind 50,000 votes in the morning.


49 posted on 11/01/2024 7:21:26 AM PDT by TStro (Come and take it!)
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To: suasponte137

“Looks like Nate is still in the bag for Trump and is scolding the pollster liars for cooking their books.”

His accuracy that brought him to prominence came about because he had access to Obama’s internal polls.

I’ve got to believe he has access to Kamala’s as well. He is being careful not to say Trump is running away with it because he doesn’t want to alienate his Obama contacts, but he also wants to maintain his credibility, so he is dropping subtle hints.

You know if it was Kamala that was being underestimated, he would be screaming it from the rooftops.


50 posted on 11/01/2024 7:22:04 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Trump trumps Hate)
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To: ConservativeDude

i think he has priorities on different levels.

His top level priority I think is to be correct...

But underneath that first priority is to shill and advise the left.

So you’re not wrong....just that he, unlike many pollsters, prides himself in his polling accuracy.


51 posted on 11/01/2024 7:22:32 AM PDT by suasponte137
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
They probably are getting results that show more variation but are adjusting them, not for accuracy but to avoid embarrassment.

I think you're absolutely right. Back in the day the polls seemed to be pretty accurate, but in today's cell phone climate I pay very little attention to them.

I don't answer my phone unless it's a call from someone on my Contacts list; others can leave a voicemail. I'd guess that millions of others do the same thing which makes it hard for pollsters to get accurate results.

52 posted on 11/01/2024 7:23:53 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: comebacknewt

“You know if it was Kamala that was being underestimated, he would be screaming it from the rooftops.”

I hadn’t thought about that...but damn.. You’re right.


53 posted on 11/01/2024 7:24:51 AM PDT by suasponte137
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To: ChicagoConservative27
I hope I have a stomach left by next Tuesday. Pass the Pepto.

Same. Everyone who claims to be a Trump supporter and hasn't voted yet needs to get to the polls and vote Trump.
54 posted on 11/01/2024 7:25:20 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Pollsters can say anything they want - it’s impossible or anyone to know. Zero transparency or accountability.


55 posted on 11/01/2024 7:28:12 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: pburgh01

I am not as certain as you are. Trump is no longer under-polled like in 2016 or 2020. It is also possible that abortion voters will overwhelm the ballots and give Kamala a huge victory. At this point my money is on Harris.


56 posted on 11/01/2024 7:29:19 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: God luvs America
All the women in my family are voting for Donald Trump- immediate and extended family.

Every woman I know is voting for Trump. I understand that's anecdotal, but I think we need to be more suspicious of the Democrat and MSM claim that a big majority of women are for Harris. Maybe the screamy, whiny GenZers are, but other women may lean toward Trump as much as men do.


57 posted on 11/01/2024 7:29:35 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I just finished the Rogan/ Vance podcast. Wow.
If 20 percent of his listeners pass to Vance, we’ve won.
It was worth listening too . 3 hours of the best interview ever. I’ve even come to the conclusion that God was responsible for the the loss of Trump /Pence ticket. He wanted Pence to be gone and 4 years of almost losing America, to make way for JD Vance. Screw the polls.


58 posted on 11/01/2024 7:33:11 AM PDT by lucky american (Had enough yet?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Well, pretty much everything else in America these days is fake, it’d be hard to think polling was the exception.


59 posted on 11/01/2024 7:33:21 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: lucky american

Thanks. I will need to see it


60 posted on 11/01/2024 7:35:06 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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