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'Vance refuses to say Trump lost in 2020, sparking debate’s biggest clash'
WaPo ^ | Oct 2 | Patrick Marley, Amy Gardner

Posted on 10/02/2024 6:10:47 AM PDT by RandFan

Sen. JD Vance refused to acknowledge that former president Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, setting off one of the most contentious exchanges in Tuesday night’s vice-presidential debate with Gov. Tim Walz.

Walz vigorously pressed Vance on the issue near the end of a debate that had otherwise been marked by unusual comity. “I would just ask, did he lose the 2020 election?” Walz asked.

“Tim, I’m focused on the future,” Vance said, without addressing the question.

“That is a damning non-answer,” Walz responded.

The Republican senator from Ohio and the Democratic governor of Minnesota offered sharply different perspectives on the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump’s lies about his 2020 loss and whether each ticket would accept the results this fall.

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Vance has previously said that if he had been vice president that day, he would have allowed Trump’s electoral votes to be considered by Congress from states where he had not won. Experts and lawyers say that approach would have violated the Constitution. On Tuesday he suggested that his intention would have been merely to allow for a debate over the election

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amygardner; patrickmarley; vance; vpdebate; walz; washingtoncompost; washingtonpoop
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Vance is not wrong but it's the Washington Post..
1 posted on 10/02/2024 6:10:47 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Gaslighting fabulists Patrick Marley and Amy Gardner at the Washington Poop are angry.


2 posted on 10/02/2024 6:13:03 AM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: RandFan

contesting electoral votes is in the Constitution

and its been done before

commiepost can go spit


3 posted on 10/02/2024 6:14:30 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: RandFan

ROTFL! Sounds like Patty and Amy couldn’t find anything to write about this morning. They had to go back to 2020 when the commie RAT turd rollers stole the election.


4 posted on 10/02/2024 6:15:11 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Jamaican/Injun "immigration" plan. Dilute and pollute until America is a third world sewer..)
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To: RandFan

Nice try A’holes....NO SALE


5 posted on 10/02/2024 6:15:38 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: joshua c

Yes it’s strange

It’s further evidence JD is a good egg. He’s not cowering to them.


6 posted on 10/02/2024 6:15:53 AM PDT by RandFan
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The Left wants to put the “election integrity” issue to bed and nail it shut, so they have free rein to continue to cheat. It will NOT happen.


7 posted on 10/02/2024 6:16:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Experts and lawyers say that approach would have violated the Constitution.

1) Never tested, so this is a matter of opinion. "Experts" don't have a good track record lately.

2) The Democrats passed a law in 2021 to ban the action that had been proposed. They made it illegal. Why did they take steps to make it illegal, if they believed it was unconstitutional??

3) Kamala Harris has said, recently, that if Trump wins in a questionable way, she would refuse to certify the votes. Which would (I guess) be both unconstitutional and also (now) illegal. But she doesn't care about stuff like that. It's not wrong when they do it.

8 posted on 10/02/2024 6:16:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (My decisions about people are based almost entirely on skin color. I learned this from Democrats.)
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Hoe many questions were there about the Trump assassination attempt? I’m guessing none.. that happened less than 3 months ago. January 6th was 3 years ago...for those keeping score.


9 posted on 10/02/2024 6:17:52 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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Right out of Mao’s playbook.


10 posted on 10/02/2024 6:18:22 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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"Experts and lawyers say that approach would have violated the Constitution."

So why did Congress subsequently amend the electoral count act afterwards?
I'll bet if the Washington Post were asked to what experts they are referring, you would get the following:

11 posted on 10/02/2024 6:18:23 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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President Trump didn’t lose. Biden was installed.


12 posted on 10/02/2024 6:18:24 AM PDT by yldstrk
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WaPo. The bottom line is that Vance won that debate hands down. He made old Mr. Grumpers the liar and bumbler admit to the world “I’m a knucklehead” and I “mis spoke.”

Vance showed that they can’t just whisk away the last 4 years on only talk about how bad Trump’s term was. He showed them those 4 years were nothing but a demented old man and a moron Border Czar who NEVER was there.

Vance even put the mods in their fact-check place.


13 posted on 10/02/2024 6:19:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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“ Experts and lawyers say that approach would have violated the Constitution. ”

Such bullshit. Hawaii did this in 1960. It has happened at other times in the past also. This is that theory that the counting of the electoral votes is merely ceremonial and that congress has no right to discern fraud.
The founders were not just designing some pageantry. But they were very concerned about reality and distribution of power.


14 posted on 10/02/2024 6:20:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: wiseprince
Hoe many questions were there about the Trump assassination attempt? I’m guessing none.. that happened less than 3 months ago.

The gaslighters at The Poop don't want you thinking about stuff like that.

15 posted on 10/02/2024 6:20:50 AM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: kiryandil

They are very big angry.


16 posted on 10/02/2024 6:20:52 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: RandFan

2 cents and a 2nd grade Ed would use common sense and conclude Trump won, but hey, when in a banana Republic, do as they do.


17 posted on 10/02/2024 6:21:28 AM PDT by Mlheureux
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To: Gaffer

He’s an impressive guy Vance


18 posted on 10/02/2024 6:23:13 AM PDT by RandFan
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"TRUMP DIDN'T LOSE IN 2020!"

"See, nobody cares!"

19 posted on 10/02/2024 6:23:27 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: joshua c

Contesting electoral college votes, there is the answer to these idiots


20 posted on 10/02/2024 6:23:41 AM PDT by daku
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