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Governor Newsom Signs Leaded Aviation Gasoline Ban Into Law
California Globe ^ | 09/23/24 | Evan Symon

Posted on 09/26/2024 6:42:59 AM PDT by eyeamok

“She’s thinking with her heart and not her brain,” said aviation manufacturing consultant Gerald Adler to the Globe on Monday. “Unleaded fuel was approved for piston-engine planes in 2022, but the problem is that a lot of engines are not rated for unleaded fuels. Could they run on it? Yes. But the problem comes with testing. Not all have been tested with it properly and still need leaded av gas. And there is no way that testing of all relevant engines can be done by 2031. More time is needed. Whoever came up with this bill just doesn’t realize the nuts and bolts behind this.

(Excerpt) Read more at californiaglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arrestnewsom; aviation; ban; ecofascism; flying; fuel; pelosicrimefamily
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To: mfish13

He opposed fuel trucks going to a work sight, but then it was found he had HIS OWN fuel tanks already full.


41 posted on 09/26/2024 7:51:49 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: eyeamok

Cool! no more flights in or out of california.


42 posted on 09/26/2024 7:52:25 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: PGR88
Someone please tell me WHY that hasn't occurred.

Perhaps because California is the State which receives the largest amount of revenue from Federal spending.

43 posted on 09/26/2024 7:55:24 AM PDT by flamberge (How people vote does not matter. The people who count the votes matter,)
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To: TexasGator

—”Mine didn’t.”

My stuff was also OK, even my racing bikes.

Leaded gasoline was still for sale until the late 1990s.

Unfortunately, Avation gas still has lead and should have been long gone with leaded automotive gas.

Our young granddaughter’s blood tested high for lead.
The drinking water was tested, and the house was checked for lead paint...
The house is near a local airport, and that is the problem.

They moved, after many improvements on the house, I liked that house and still drive past when in the area.

Somewhere in the mid-1990s, the shite hit the fan; MTBE!

The fuel tank on my snowblower started to delaminate from the MTBE CRAP!


44 posted on 09/26/2024 8:12:46 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Delta 21
100LL switch was a joke just like this one is.

100LL still has quite a bit of lead in it. The dangers of running automotive gas in a piston airplane is the danger to the valve train and a loss of power. 87 octane pump gas won't make the power of 100LL. Your 180 horsepower Lycoming engine won't be making 180 HP once you re-tune it for 87 octane automotive gas.

45 posted on 09/26/2024 8:20:50 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: eyeamok

Destroying people’s property and livelihoods is a feature to environmentalists. They get their jollies every time it happens.


46 posted on 09/26/2024 8:25:12 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: eyeamok
Between this and the propane cylinders, we need multiple brave companies all at once to announce they are no longer serving the California market.

Maybe they can get by without propane, but let's see how long they last without air travel.

47 posted on 09/26/2024 8:27:26 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: eyeamok

He’s just showing his Marxist POS side….is all. Nothing new.


48 posted on 09/26/2024 8:30:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (In Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: eyeamok

Will this pass court review based on interstate commerce clause?


49 posted on 09/26/2024 8:30:29 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Jet fuel is. Piston engines use high octane gas


50 posted on 09/26/2024 8:31:40 AM PDT by Vaquero (In Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Vaquero

Thanks. I forgot. My assumption was jets, forgetting that a large number of small planes in wide use do have piston engines.


51 posted on 09/26/2024 8:42:38 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: eyeamok

Historic piston-driven aircraft will vanish from the skies of California. In the Southland, a squadron of AT-6 Mosquitoes does flyovers at patriotic and sporting events, and there is also a C-47 that also does flyovers. At the Chino Airport, there is a sizable collection of WWII aircraft, some that can still fly. But thanks to Newscum, they will fly no more.


52 posted on 09/26/2024 8:43:54 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: nagant

Unless you added Marvel Mystery Oil to your gas tank. I kept a 1967 Ford 352ci truck running for a decade using top oil.


53 posted on 09/26/2024 8:46:48 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Red Badger

The insanity continues in Kommiefornia - you can get an FAA permit to use unleaded in small planes though.


54 posted on 09/26/2024 8:52:37 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: cymbeline

“Isn’t tetraethyl lead added to gasoline to increase its octane rating, which allows a higher compression ratio, which results in a more efficient engine?

If an existing engine is modified to take unleaded fuel, does it become a less efficient engine? Possibly the modification would require lowering the compression ratio to prevent knock.”

Back over 100 years ago they chose lead as it was cheap and proprietary. Octane rating of ethanol is about 109. E85 is high octane!

My 5.0 runs 11.5 to one plus about 10# of boost. E85 would allow an increase in boost plus about 100 more hp.

On cruise control and level road I get 28 mpg at 65 mph.


55 posted on 09/26/2024 8:54:21 AM PDT by TexasGator (l . . l / l / . l l . l).1 1 l l l l l)
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To: Wasichu

Jet aircraft use jet fuel, basically kerosene as others have stated. This Newsom foolishness outlaws leaded aviation gasoline used in piston aircraft engines. It mostly impacts the general aviation (GA) community flying small aircraft like Cessna’s, etc.

CA has been trying to run GA out of a number of airports for decades, because certain politicians can get a pay off for closing municipal airports and selling the land for developers to build housing.


56 posted on 09/26/2024 8:56:06 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: eyeamok

Ban Newsome.


57 posted on 09/26/2024 8:56:07 AM PDT by Leep (Re-elect deep state. 2024!)
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To: Delta 21

115/145


58 posted on 09/26/2024 9:08:24 AM PDT by whistleduck
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To: whistleduck

“115/145”

Not available to the general public


59 posted on 09/26/2024 9:14:51 AM PDT by TexasGator (l . . l / l / . l l . l).1 1 l l l l l)
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To: TexasGator

“Octane rating of ethanol is about 109. E85 is high octane!”

Isn’t the drawback of alcohol, aside from collecting water, that it has a lower energy density — you need a bigger tank and more pounds of fuel to go for a given distance?

Alcohol has oxygen in the molecule. Makes for a clean flame but why carry oxygen in the tank when you can get it from the air?


60 posted on 09/26/2024 9:31:49 AM PDT by cymbeline
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