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The Real Questions of the Immigration Debate
City Journal ^ | 9/25/2024 | Christopher F. Rufo

Posted on 09/25/2024 12:27:14 PM PDT by whyilovetexas111

Political campaigns are symbolic ventures, designed to drive attention to certain issues and to marshal facts, language, and emotion to deliver a material advantage. From Cicero’s campaign for the consulship to Kamala Harris and Donald Trump’s campaigns for the presidency, it has always been thus.

This is a useful lens through which to view the current immigration debate. For several weeks, two migrant-related stories have dominated national attention: Venezuelan gang members apparently seizing apartments in Aurora, Colorado, and tensions resulting from large-scale Haitian migration in Springfield, Ohio. Beneath the surface of their rhetorical heat, the controversies point to three key questions of immigration policy: who, how, and how much.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; immigration; politics; voting
How crowded should America become? How many people should live here? What can we sustain?
1 posted on 09/25/2024 12:27:14 PM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

Problem #1) People in America use too many resources.
Problem #2) American lifestyles are not sustainable.
Problem #3) We need more people here in America.


2 posted on 09/25/2024 12:29:09 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (My decisions about people are based almost entirely on skin color. I learned this from Democrats.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

The real question is why are only White majority countries being inundated now.

Is this happening to China? India? Indonesia? Brazil?

Nope. Of course not. It’s 100% mass invasion of European or North American formerly White majority countries.

All the questions you note have been asked and debated endlessly in the Congress for 237 years. The laws already exist. But no one will explain why they are being violated on a massive scale, and for what purpose.

Of course we all know, but aren’t allowed to breathe a word lest we get shouted down or even arrested for saying it.


3 posted on 09/25/2024 12:32:29 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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You can have a small, slow and unalike. Or you can have large, fast and alike.

You can not have large, fast and unalike.

For example if every native born Canadian moved to the US we could cope. It would not be easy, especially with the Quebecois but could be coped with. Our culture and language are enough alike that it is possible.

If a small number of people from Mongolia were to immigrate to the US we could cope. Our cultures are unalike and so are our language but they would integrate over a couple of decades. We would pick up a couple of minor Mongolian bits and they would acquire a large number of American bits.

But large, fast and unalike does not work. Ever.

The newcomers build their own enclaves and do not integrate and the natives who are pushed out of those enclaves will resent them.

Just the way it is.

4 posted on 09/25/2024 12:42:21 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: whyilovetexas111

The real question Americans need to ask themselves is “Do we want to be replaced, marginalized and impoverished?”


5 posted on 09/25/2024 12:47:19 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

What would happen to your home town if 1/3 of the population was added with Haitians? It could happen anywhere?


6 posted on 09/25/2024 12:58:03 PM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: whyilovetexas111

“The Real Questions of the Immigration Debate”

There’s only ONE question: “Why the HELL do we put up with the lawlessness crap?”


7 posted on 09/25/2024 1:10:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (May the soy boys, feminazis, and alphabet weirdos choke on the toxic fumes of our masculinity)
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To: whyilovetexas111

Really a well-written article.
Thanks


8 posted on 09/25/2024 1:49:09 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: whyilovetexas111

How can you have a discussion when one side flouts the rule of law? You can’t decide whether a player is safe at second base on a close play , if one team says we keep a second base bag in our dugout and he touched it before he batted.


9 posted on 09/25/2024 2:14:08 PM PDT by sopo
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

That’s what infuriates me. You can work your tail off, find your little slice of heaven in a nice, safe, quiet, affordable town, and at any time, have tens of thousands of “migrants” dumped on you, completely ruining your life, your town, the worth of your home, turning your life upside-down. Why should Americans have this happen to them? Why should we even have to worry about it happening?


10 posted on 09/25/2024 3:09:35 PM PDT by Nea Wood ( )
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