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Tim Walz's superior officer in the National Guard tells CNN that Walz knew he was going to be deployed to Iraq six months before he decided to retire. He also says Walz promised he would deploy and went back on his word and abandoned his men.
X ^ | 8/9/24 | Donald Trump Jr.

Posted on 08/09/2024 6:06:21 PM PDT by hardspunned

BOMBSHELL: Tim Walz's superior officer in the National Guard tells CNN that Walz knew he was going to be deployed to Iraq six months before he decided to retire. He also says Walz promised he would deploy and went back on his word and abandoned his men.

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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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41 posted on 08/09/2024 7:41:41 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: Salvey

Wow! Great place to be! :)


42 posted on 08/09/2024 7:42:09 PM PDT by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: blueunicorn6

In his defense I also retired prior to a one-year deployment to Afghanistan. But I will say this. I had been deployed five times before that. Somalia, Haiti, Kosovo,, Iraq and Afghanistan.
I doubt that he has even 1/5 of my deployments under his belt..


43 posted on 08/09/2024 7:44:12 PM PDT by Bigbrown
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To: Bigbrown

Were you a Sergeant Major?


44 posted on 08/09/2024 7:51:27 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: logi_cal869

Man, that deputy could run! Strip all that equipment off of him and say BOO! and he’s got Olympic potential.


45 posted on 08/09/2024 7:51:51 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge )
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To: doorgunner69

Makes sense why Gavin newsom was cleaning up hobo garbage he thinks he might be the replacement for walz


46 posted on 08/09/2024 7:51:58 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: cgbg

Also came out today that five times walz had appearances with a Muslim cleric who praised hitler and praised the October 7th attacks


47 posted on 08/09/2024 7:53:22 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: hardspunned

Soldiers are 100% fungible. Nobody is irreplaceable.

If you get Walz to admit he retired when he did to avoid combat, that’s one thing. But speculating why he might have chosen that moment to retire is nothing but an “ad hominem” attack. YOU’RE CLUTCHING AT STRAWS.

Go after him for “stolen valor” because he claimed to hold a rank he never achieved, or because he claimed to have combat experience, that’s one thing. But beyond that, the upshot is that he was Honorably Discharged, and your petty nitpicking won’t change that.

And if you go after him for shirking combat duty, I GUARANTEE the demoncrats are going after Trump for DRAFT DODGING.

Because Trump was 17 years on in 1963, just when Vietnam was kicking off, and NEVER SERVED A DAY IN HIS LIFE.

I’m not defending Walz, I’m telling you it’s A STUPID MOVE and you’re going to get your hat handed to you when the voting public is asked to consider the relative merits of a man who served honorably and retired a Master Sergeant against someone who managed to avoid military service (much less how he managed to avoid it) over the entire course of America’s longest war.


48 posted on 08/09/2024 7:59:19 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: hardspunned
"He also says Walz promised he would deploy and went back on his word and abandoned his men."

Similar to what Bill Clinton did. Clinton gave his promise to Col. Eugene Holmes, an Army ROTC recruiter at the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville, that he would sign up for the ROTC officers training school at the University in order to avoid the draft. In the end, he never registered at the school, and fled the country to attend Oxford.

49 posted on 08/09/2024 8:05:54 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: hardspunned

Oddly the troops under his command got lucky. Those troops had injury and some death. One noncom said he was glad that he was lead by someone else. He said if led by him the death and injuries would have been greater. He had no confidence in his leader.

If one is not devoted to your troops and will lead despite all, you are are piece of Sh-t.


50 posted on 08/09/2024 8:13:13 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: hardspunned

That video REALLY made me angry.

Aside from the fact that we were told that he was “injured” in the fall, there WAS NO ATTEMPT WHATSOEVER to take out a single gunman CLEARLY there for only one purpose.

He chose to retreat.

Absolute coward, and I hope he and his team are held to account. He and Walz are in good company.


51 posted on 08/09/2024 8:20:16 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: lee martell; Deepeasttx; Apparatchik; JohnBovenmyer; jz638; Armscor38; blueunicorn6; Bigbrown; ...
I have a rather basic question; did he “abandon his troops” as described, or did he simply refuse to re-enlist for another couple of years?

As I understand it, he had two years left of a six-year enlistment.

Since he'd been informed of the upcoming deployment, Sergeant Major Doug Julin said that "stop-loss" procedures were in effect - and that Walz went around him and over his head [apparently, Walz was supposed to consult with Julin as his superior in the chain of command].

Julin said that a less-experienced "green" soldier would have been excused for not knowing about what a No-No that is - but that Walz knew full well what he was doing after 24 years in, at a command level.

Of course, the news-bimbo had NO idea what Julin was talking about.

Civilians have no idea that the US military owns you until they say they don't own you any more [as I understand it].

52 posted on 08/09/2024 9:40:10 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: Deepeasttx; hardspunned
Was he flocked? Meaning that he was an E8 for pay, but held the E9 rank for the position. I had a first Sgt (E7) that was flocked as an E8 until retirement.

The correct term is frocked. Yes, he was apparently frocked, as related by attorney Robert Gouveia, quoting Ashley Hayek as the source of information. Starts at 9m:10s of Youtube video.

Queued to start of video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd7NvRp86sk&t=1s

Queued to 9m:10s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd7NvRp86sk&t=550s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frocking

In the United States military, frocking is the practice of a commissioned or non-commissioned officer selected for promotion wearing the insignia of the higher grade before the official date of promotion (the "date of rank"). An officer who has been selected for promotion may be authorized to "frock" to the next grade.

The need to frock is a result of the fact that the number of people who may serve in a particular rank is restricted by federal law. Thus, even though an individual may have been selected for promotion and, for officers, confirmed by the Senate, they must often wait for a vacancy (headroom) to occur in order to be officially promoted.

Frocking is a response to a fiscal restriction. The service gets to put someone in the uniform of the higher rate/rank/grade prior to the official date of promotion without making an unauthorized expenditure of appropriated funds.

Walz was not busted a paygrade at retirement. Officially, he never held the rate/grade of E-9. At retirement before actually meeting all the requirements to be E-9, and prior to any official promotion, he was defrocked and no longer authorized to wear the uniform with the E-9 insignia. Officially, Walz was never an E-9, and he never drew E-9 pay.

His attempt to have the Minnesota National Guard grant him E-9 retirement was denied and he was retired at the highest rate he ever officially held, E-8.

53 posted on 08/09/2024 9:44:17 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Paal Gulli
Sergeant Major Julin was REALLY, REALLY cheesed about the stunt that Walz pulled by jumping the chain of command and going around and above him.

Said he knew better than a less-experienced soldier would.

54 posted on 08/09/2024 9:45:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"When is Trump going to put out ads? Are they being banned?"

....... Well ..... Anything countering a Democrat narrative would be considered .... "Disinformation" .... AND ..... Pretty much illegal in todays America

....... So YES ..... Prety much banned I would say ....

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55 posted on 08/09/2024 10:00:02 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: kiryandil

Absolutely. They do own you during that time. When I used to hear the term “GI Joe”, little did I really get the truth of that nickname. I had trouble in my first year of the Navy, until I understood and accepted my situation.


56 posted on 08/09/2024 10:00:56 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Bigbrown
In his defense I also retired prior to a one-year deployment to Afghanistan. But I will say this. I had been deployed five times before that. Somalia, Haiti, Kosovo,, Iraq and Afghanistan. I doubt that he has even 1/5 of my deployments under his belt..

The retired sergeant major kind of addressed your situation [at 8:40 in the video]. He said that under stop-loss procedures, once you've been notified, you're going, unless something major came up where you didn't have to go [there was something about a 90-day window in there].

I think 5 deployments would qualify.    

57 posted on 08/09/2024 10:02:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: woodpusher

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4257488/posts?page=52#52


58 posted on 08/09/2024 10:03:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: lee martell

He told his commander he would deploy. He should have been Working getting himself and his unit ready to deploy. Then he did a chickensh*t end a round to a higher commander to report he was going to try for congress. So he left his first commander hanging and all his fellow soldiers to rush around and organize for war. What a putz.


59 posted on 08/09/2024 10:40:16 PM PDT by 3ZZZ
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To: Paal Gulli

They have already tried that with Trump. And his ass wasn’t handed to him. The difference is Walz tried to beef up his military record with it to the point of lying...and that is stolen Valor.


60 posted on 08/09/2024 10:48:54 PM PDT by 3ZZZ
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