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Audio forensics suggest as many as three weapons fired at Trump rally
CNN ^ | July 15th, 2024 | From CNN’s Gianluca Mezzofiore and Avery Schmitz

Posted on 07/16/2024 10:28:57 AM PDT by Mariner

Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: averyschmitz; butler; butlertrumprally; catalingrigoras; clintonnonnews; cnn; colewhitecotton; failedassassination; forensics; gianlucamezzofiore; hoax; montanastate; pennsylvania; robertmaher; uofcolorado
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To: Tellurian

I suspect a 3rd LEO. See my posts above about the relative loudnesses and acoustic signatures of the shots in the various vids.


81 posted on 07/16/2024 7:28:48 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: Samurai_Jack

Doubtful. In the vid from near Crooks position, the 2nd group of shots sounds MUCH louder and much different / closer than the 1st group.


82 posted on 07/16/2024 7:33:32 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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There were thousands of high precision audio devices that day providing an uncommon field density of detail. Too bad there’s no site where the attendees could upload there respective videos for analysis. Should be able to pinpoint the locations of the originating gunfire.


83 posted on 07/16/2024 9:29:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: RayChuang88
Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This amateur sets distance to dead man on roof at around 435 feet, using GoogleEarth and the RULER function.

84 posted on 07/17/2024 5:26:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Grampa Dave

SO is Lincoln/Booth


85 posted on 07/17/2024 5:28:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nesnah
For skilled shooter that’s an easy shot.P>At a moving target?

Bobble heads move around less than Trump!

86 posted on 07/17/2024 5:30:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nesnah
For skilled shooter that’s an easy shot.P>At a moving target?

Bobble heads move around less than Trump!

87 posted on 07/17/2024 5:32:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paul R.

If I were gonna shoot someone, I’d start with a FULL magazine.

How many shells were left in the shooters gun?


88 posted on 07/17/2024 5:35:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gene Eric

The clocks on all the cameras are synchronized with GPS satellites, so the time track of videos could line up quite easily.


89 posted on 07/17/2024 5:37:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jane Long

The sign is not related.

The sign was anti-Biden. You can see more of them in the video of the stands after Trump left and they were caring for the wounded.

It is a play on the Apprentice meme “Joe Biden you’re fired!” Takes up more than one line to Biden’s name is by itself at the top.


90 posted on 07/17/2024 6:28:49 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: John Robinson

The last shot was so long after the first and even second series of shots. In my mind that last shot was to finish the kid off. Perhaps still moving, I don’t know..


91 posted on 07/17/2024 6:32:29 AM PDT by mware
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To: Mariner

The supposed shooter is described by many as the “patsy”. He was recruited and set up to take the fall and the counter snipers bullet. The real shooters were in that building.

True? I don’t know.


92 posted on 07/17/2024 6:34:04 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Mariner

Related. Dan Bongino has only recently returned to YouTube. I know because I added him to my feed about a month ago, before that I was occasionally catching his episodes on other platform.

Dan Bongino is right now probably the most outspoken and credible critic of the Secret Service failures.

In the last 24 hours Dan Bongino’s YouTube channel was “terminated”. Don’t believe me? Search YouTube, find a video and click on it. You will get an error message stating the channel has been “terminated”.


93 posted on 07/17/2024 6:41:09 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

I watched Bongino on Rumble yesterday. I just woke up here on the west coast and haven’t checked yet if he’s still on there. I would assume he is.


94 posted on 07/17/2024 6:52:59 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I wasn’t asking about ‘the sign’. Never mentioned it, in my post you replied, to me, on.

(I know many were holding You’re Fired Biden signs...and, where the phrase comes from. 🙄)

Perhaps your post was meant for someone else?


95 posted on 07/17/2024 7:11:53 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Jane Long

Yes :) My apologies.


96 posted on 07/17/2024 7:24:53 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Mariner

A second spitter?!


97 posted on 07/17/2024 7:36:04 AM PDT by fwdude ( Never trust a movement whose symbol is a raised fist.)
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To: fwdude

Could there have been a second spitter?

There was another area off site, somewhat grassy with small knoll that could have approximated that trajectory.


98 posted on 07/17/2024 7:38:28 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Resolute Conservative

👍🏼 👍🏼


99 posted on 07/17/2024 7:56:37 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: John Robinson

That was my thought as well. We sow two Secret Service snipes on the scary sloped roof behind Trump. We know at least one of them fired, likely both.


100 posted on 07/17/2024 11:11:50 AM PDT by matt04 ( )
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