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Audio forensics suggest as many as three weapons fired at Trump rally
CNN ^ | July 15th, 2024 | From CNN’s Gianluca Mezzofiore and Avery Schmitz

Posted on 07/16/2024 10:28:57 AM PDT by Mariner

Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: averyschmitz; butler; butlertrumprally; catalingrigoras; clintonnonnews; cnn; colewhitecotton; failedassassination; forensics; gianlucamezzofiore; hoax; montanastate; pennsylvania; robertmaher; uofcolorado
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I haven't seen anything associated with this posted, and it's not widespread in the media.

But it explains why a kid who can't shoot almost nailed a head shot under duress.

There's also a lot of information to suggest an inside job. A second shooter is explosive.

1 posted on 07/16/2024 10:28:57 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

But the audio forensics can be wrong because of potential noise reflections.


2 posted on 07/16/2024 10:31:19 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (.FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Ah, sounds like they’re trolling for the conspiracy clicks. Weapon A = assassin; Weapon B = counter sniper; possible Weapon C = second counter sniper. Where’s the news? We saw that.


3 posted on 07/16/2024 10:32:21 AM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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To: Mariner

This lines up with what I was telling my wife, and what eyewitnesses on the ground have said. They said officers on the ground were shooting at him.

The first shots were his, the second round of shots were an officer (or officers) returning fire, and the third was the counter-sniper shot.


4 posted on 07/16/2024 10:33:49 AM PDT by AnglePark (My opinion is the most worthless thing I own.)
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To: Mariner

Nonsense. Lone wolf. FBI says so. They knew everything about this guy within 24 hours. Case closed.


5 posted on 07/16/2024 10:34:57 AM PDT by wny
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To: Mariner

I don’t remember if it was here or on patriots.win but someone posted a graph of the audio.

It was on Sunday.

The poster said something was off on the audio.

A giveaway would be if the bullets from the dead man and the two other victims were from the same rifle or not.

Guess is we will probably never know since the FBI is in charge of the investigation.


6 posted on 07/16/2024 10:35:19 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: wny

Did you forget the sarc tag?


7 posted on 07/16/2024 10:36:50 AM PDT by RWGinger (FJB)
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To: Mariner
But it explains why a kid who can't shoot almost nailed a head shot under duress.

Thats just it. Blind luck. He also nailed the hydraulic system of tractor way off to the right of the stage from his point of view. You can see the hydraulic fluid spray out and the bucket drop on the tractor. He was spraying shots.

8 posted on 07/16/2024 10:38:46 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Mariner

John F. Kennedy/Assassinated/Killed
November 22, 1963, Parkland Health, Dallas, TX

60+ years and the Kennedy/Oswald story is still being discussed.


9 posted on 07/16/2024 10:39:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Quick Secret Service action stops the eviction of dementia patient from his home.)
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Shooter 1). Actor Yearick (my opinion) on barn roof

Shooter 2) SS with the tripod, who fired high into the air

Shooter 3) SS (laying prone) to right of tripod SS, who took out the actor

10 posted on 07/16/2024 10:40:24 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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A = shooter
B and C = two snipers on the red barn roof who twiddled their thumbs for 30 minutes after getting a bead on shooter.

Have you heard they’re now reporting 30 minutes on the snipers. There were also some SS on the roof and inside the building but no one bothered to secure Trump so I can only label this an inside job, a planned assassination. No wonder Trump looked a bit off last night knowing his security can’t be trusted.

His detail was switched at the last minute with Jill’s. Why, huh? However, we don’t know who is Trump’s guys and who is Jill’s gals. It is no wonder Trump repeatedly ask for additional security but JILL Biden’s appointment, SS Director Mz Cheatle refused him.


11 posted on 07/16/2024 10:41:37 AM PDT by bgill
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To: AnglePark

We do know 100% for sure at least guns were fired, the one that nearly killed Trump and the one that killed the would be assassin.

This article could be entirely true, except as you say, two of the guns fired were back at the assassin.


12 posted on 07/16/2024 10:42:22 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: RayChuang88

Another grassy knoll


13 posted on 07/16/2024 10:42:37 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Mariner

This is from CNN so credibility=0.


14 posted on 07/16/2024 10:43:45 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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“There’s also a lot of information to suggest an inside job.”

There were posts here that the chick right behind Trump was somehow signaling to the shooter(s), with a head not, how she held her sign, etc. I suppose she is being investigated.


15 posted on 07/16/2024 10:44:37 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's not as if Biden has the nuclear codes or anything. 😳)
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To: RWGinger

I thought the sarcasm was pretty apparent......


16 posted on 07/16/2024 10:44:47 AM PDT by wny
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To: wny; RWGinger

These days, in upside down world, it’s best to go ahead and add your /s.

When real headlines read like The Bee .... you need to keep that /s handy.


17 posted on 07/16/2024 10:46:37 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Deaf Smith

Just curious, since he doesn’t live near the site...how did he know of the roof access point would be unguarded, and that he’d have the open space to get a clear shot?

It sounds like he did a lot of last minute preparation (purchases). Leaves no letter to the parents? No manifesto?


18 posted on 07/16/2024 10:47:18 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: John Robinson

That answered my question.


19 posted on 07/16/2024 10:48:25 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: Deaf Smith

I thought I was only one that saw what a lame shot the first CS had. Fumbled to get back into position. Maybe the recoil from these 300 Win Mags are just too much for these rubber band arm shooters.


20 posted on 07/16/2024 10:48:32 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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