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The 4 Ways I See This Going With Trump
The New York Times ^ | Jul 13, 2024 06:26 PM | Ross Douthat

Posted on 07/13/2024 11:40:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Donald Trump will arrive at the 2024 Republican convention — his Republican convention, finally and completely, without the dissent of 2016 or the pandemic that overshadowed 2020 — closer than ever to a second term. But the likelihood of a Trump restoration has not yet brought clarity about what it would actually usher in.

With Trump there is always the whipsaw, the forays toward normalcy and the reversion to a darker mean. Asked on the debate stage whether he would spend a second term seeking revenge on his political enemies, he promised that “my retribution is going to be success. We’re going to make this country successful again.” A few days later, he was on Truth Social, amplifying a post demanding a military tribunal for Liz Cheney.

With Trump, too, there is always the question of how his policy impulses interact with his personal laziness. He recently made a big show of repudiating Project 2025, a Heritage Foundation blueprint stuffed with severely conservative proposals, and then he produced a Republican Party platform stripped of some gun-rights and pro-life language and pledging to protect Medicare and Social Security from any kind of cuts. Are these signs that Trump knows he can just roll over conservative activist groups in pursuit of popularity? Or are they meaningless gestures, because personnel is policy and he’s going to hire all the guys who worked on Project 2025?

There’s no singular Trumpism whose workings we can confidently predict. Instead there are Trumpist scenarios and Trumpian personae — whose interactions, if he wins, will give his second term its shape.

First, there is Trump the moderate...


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To: Responsibility2nd

You just violated the consent decree. You could get FR shut down.


41 posted on 07/13/2024 1:10:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Are you drunk? I have no authority to ban anyone. I wouldn’t ban you even if I could.

I’m just passing on some passive aggressive friendly advice. lol. I’m trying to help you.

Take it or leave it.


42 posted on 07/13/2024 1:12:12 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that's told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Admin Moderator

I only posted a link in which YOU gave me. Tell me when, where and how that link could shut FR down.

Sheesh.

If you think that commonly used link that we often see on FR is gonna shut FR down, then I’ll tattle on myself and have the mods remove that post.


43 posted on 07/13/2024 1:16:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that's told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It shows how to bypass paywalls, a violation of the consent decree.

Either have banned forever and go away or just go away. Your choice.


44 posted on 07/13/2024 1:18:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Don’t give me any more “passive aggressive friendly advice.”


45 posted on 07/13/2024 1:22:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: nickcarraway
Lol.Trump is more likely to put Cheney in his administration than in a military tribunal.

From the article:

“ First, there is Trump the moderate. This has always been an underestimated aspect of his brand, because his moderation is united to excess and demagoguery. But Trump is not a movement conservative, not an ideologue outside of core obsessions like trade and immigration, and he no longer has to fear revolts from his right the way he did in the days when he felt the need to pick a religious-conservative Reaganite as his vice president.

Glance over the G.O.P. platform, focus on the substance rather than the capital letters and the Trumpian flourishes, and you can see outlines of the pitch the moderate version of Trump wants to make to swing voters. I’ll be right-wing on crime and immigration, but I won’t touch your retirement programs. I’ll be anti-woke and pro-patriotism, but I won’t be Mike Pence on social issues. I’ll keep the tax cuts I passed last time, but I won’t necessarily pile on more tax cuts for the rich. I’ll keep America out of unnecessary wars.”

46 posted on 07/13/2024 1:29:06 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater & Thomas Sowell in 2024)
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To: j.havenfarm

Is Doubt-that his real last name?


47 posted on 07/13/2024 1:35:12 PM PDT by Karoo
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To: thegagline
Glance over the G.O.P. platform, focus on the substance rather than the capital letters and the Trumpian flourishes, and you can see outlines of the pitch the moderate version of Trump wants to make to swing voters. I’ll be right-wing on crime and immigration, but I won’t touch your retirement programs. I’ll be anti-woke and pro-patriotism, but I won’t be Mike Pence on social issues. I’ll keep the tax cuts I passed last time, but I won’t necessarily pile on more tax cuts for the rich. I’ll keep America out of unnecessary wars.”

Sounds pretty good to me.

48 posted on 07/13/2024 1:43:00 PM PDT by CrosscutSaw
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To: Karoo

Real name. Father is a somewhat well-known poet.


49 posted on 07/13/2024 1:48:38 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

nyt desparately trying to write about anything other than

biden’s dementia


50 posted on 07/13/2024 1:58:28 PM PDT by joshua c
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To: PIF
You are very cruel, doing that would instantly alienate all people on SS and Medicare - and dovetail with Biden’s cutting of Medicare Advantage plans in 2024 and 2025

You are quite apparently self-obsessed. Social Security has become so vast that you cannot know what I or anyone else means by cutting it without asking for clarification. For example, taking illegals off SSI is "cutting Social Security." Raising the retirement age as indexed to life expectancy is "cutting Social Security." Means testing is "cutting Social Security." I'd hazard that NONE of those measures would affect you. I would also suggest that none of those measures would adversely affect Trump's election.

Get a grip. Entitlements are bankrupting the country, more than anything else. We have choices to make; else inflation will continue to drain the savings of those with the self-control to accumulate them.

51 posted on 07/13/2024 2:16:33 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You are very wrong and they all would affect me adversely - so knock off the name calling, please.

Again, you come across as a very cruel & heartless person.


52 posted on 07/13/2024 2:49:30 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
You are very wrong and they all would affect me adversely

Oh, so you're an illegal alien! Welfare case too, thinking yourself entitled to spend other people's money taken by force. And then you get crappy to the people paying your freight when they're trying to keep the government funding you solvent.

- so knock off the name calling, please.

Earth to PIF, you started with the name calling.

53 posted on 07/13/2024 4:39:33 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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