Democrats Have No Good Way Forward And Deserve To Suffer

It’s horrible when bad things happen to good people. This isn’t a story about that, this is a story about bad things happening to Democrats – think of it as evidence that karma may, in fact, exist. Or at least that God has a sense of humor. Because the corner that Democrats have painted themselves into has no good or easy way out, and the only have themselves to blame.

This doesn’t mean that Democrats are going to lose – never underestimate the Republican skill of being able to blow an election – it just means it will take extraordinary events in order to just get them back to even.

Does Joe Biden survive the week is not a crack about his age, it’s a question about his will. Sooner or later, the time will come where enough Democrats look at a shrinking calendar and poll numbers and realize there is likely not enough of the former to make up for the latter. But all of their alternatives are just as tainted by Joe Biden as Joe Biden is.

It’s a glorious mess they’ve created for themselves. That they’ve taken so much of the media with them is the icing on top. How can they get out of it?

1) Biden stays. They can’t get rid of him, legally, anyway. I suppose the delegates could simply refuse to vote for him in defiance of their party’s rules. Not sure what would happen there, or what would happen if they walked out without voting for enough rounds that they got to the point where the Super Delegates get a say and they’re all free to vote how they like, but it would be fun to watch.

The problem is some state’s laws obligate delegates to vote how the primary commanded them to. It’s unlikely that the party of letting violent criminals go is going to charge hard after delegates not voting for a slightly animated corpse, but if their Attorney General is a Biden loyalist, you never know.

2) Someone who matters speaks out. It’s always funny when a few backbench Members of the House put together a letter complaining about this or that, trying to “pressure” leadership into the action they want. Unless it is all of them, or at least damn near most, these letter are political junk mail – quickly tossed out. Those who signed it might brag to their constituents about it, but it never matters. That’s all there is about Biden, so far.

There are very few people who could speak out and make it matter. Nancy Pelosi is one. I’d say Hakeem Jeffries, but he’s Pelosi’s puppet. Chuck Schumer, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. If they call for Joe to go, he won’t really have much choice.

But you have to remember that Joe has always been a nasty, vindictive person. He would go, but he could do a lot of damage on the way out the door. A decent portion of Democrats do like Joe, and would be angry at his ouster. There’s no reason to think they’d vote for the party after that.

3) Whoever comes next. Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom, were one of them to come out against Joe, could do serious damage, but it would be a suicide mission. They don’t like each other, so they’re both fighting to be seen as the most loyal Biden supporter right now. If Joe leaves on his own, they could lay claim, with varying degrees of success, to the mantle of heir apparent. But if one cracks too early and calls for Joe to go, it would likely lead to a flood of people doing the same right behind them, but they would be denounced as disloyal and opportunistic. They all are, but being labels as such would be damaging with the voters they’d need the support of.

Of these two – the obvious and only real options for replacing Biden – whoever breaks first, comes in last.

Will Democrats break? Will they bypass a black woman for a rich white man? Can they reanimate Joe to the point that he limps across the finish line? If they go convince him to withdraw as a candidate, will they force him to resign as president too? If not, how will they justify saying he’s unfit for a second term but somehow fine to be President now?

There are more questions than there are answers and they know it. And there are no good answers to the questions we do know about.

I would like nothing more than to have them keep Joe Biden on the ticket, not because I think he’d be easier to beat – though, I do – but because I want him to lose. I want one of his last memories as he drifts off into full dementia to be that American people rejected him and everything he did; that he will go down as the worst President in history. I want that to be the last thing that blends into the fog.

Joe Biden has been such a destructive force to the country, and a divisive force to Americans, that I desire he unambiguously know his presidency was the inflection point where the country recoiled in horror from his politics, his policies, his family and him.

Perhaps that’s cruel, but a man who made his name lying about his own life and his opponents, while making his fortune off exploiting the public trust, deserves nothing less. And the American Public, who’ve suffered under him, deserve at least that small measure of satisfaction.

DiogenesLamp: "By the time Grant took over, the corruption was baked through and through the Federal government."

Nooooo...
Despite your endless repetition of this claim, there are no objective measures to suggest that US government corruption under Republicans Lincoln and Grant was any worse than it had been under the previous 9 Democrat and 2 Whig administrations.

Indeed, arguably it was better because Democrats had nine administrations (from 1801 until 1861) to bake in their corruptions, while Grant was only the second elected Republican.

Further, as per usual, DiogenesLamp is here turning Republican accomplishments on their heads, blaming Republicans for problems caused by... by... {wait for it}... Democrats!!, of course.

Democrat Pres. Jackson's "Spoils System" was one root cause of government corruption and ineffectiveness, since positions were awarded not on merit but on loyalty to certain politicians.
Good Government Republicans began trying to reform the Democrats' Spoils System as early as 1867 with the Tenure of Office Act.
In 1871 the Republican Congress passed, and Pres. Grant signed the Civil Service Commission Act, which began to use merit instead of patronage for Federal jobs.
But, by 1875, with Democrats back in charge of Congress, the patronage spoils system was still too strong, and Grant's Civil Service Commission was not renewed under Republican Presidents Hayes or Garfield.
Finally, after Pres. Garfield's assassination in 1881, Republican Pres. Arthur was able to pass the Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act, which began to replace Federal patronage Spoils System jobs with merit-based appointments.

Regardless, words like "corrupt", "unethical", "illegal" or "ineffective" are all matters of definition and cultural-tradition, and there's no reason to suppose that the US government in, say, 1876 was any more or less corrupt than it had been in, say, 1856, or that it was more or less corrupt than other governments around the world.

My point is, Republicans unlike Democrats are all about Good Government, and began reforming the Federal Civil Service in the 1860s, before accomplishing major reform in the 1883 Pendleton Act.

But, typical of Democrats, DiogenesLamp wants to blame Republicans for problems caused by Democrats, and finally begun corrections under Republicans.

Today the Old Democrats Spoils System has more-or-less returned, so in January 2025, Republicans under Pres. Trump will be called on, yet again, to make meaningful reforms to eliminate abuses nurtured by Democrats over many decades.

That's why yesterday's Republican Party Platform of 20 items included several addressing directly or indirectly Federal government abuses:

"#7 -- DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
"#9 -- END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
"#10 -- STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
"#16 -- CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
"#18 -- SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP"

I expect there will also be a major housecleaning at the top levels of the Federal bureaucracy.

DiogenesLamp: "And you are just ignoring dirty deeds at the wigwam.
Lincoln was the bribemaster.
He bribed delegates to get the nomination, he even bribed William Seward to get him to go along."

Noooo...

First of all, contrary to your claims here regarding the 1860 Republican Convention in Chicago, Lincoln did not attend and specifically instructed his supporters not to offer anything in exchange for support from other delegates.
"I authorize no bargains and will be bound by none".
A. Lincoln to supporters at Republican Convention in Chicago, May 1860
Nor is it clear if they ever offered, or did not offer, anything specific.
Second, if you define American "politics as usual" as illegal "bribery", then every politician is guilty, beginning long before Lincoln.
Third, indeed, politics is all about alliances and partnerships which are not defined as "bribery" so long as they remain within decent limits -- and there's nothing to suggest that any of Lincoln's friends & allies were outside the bounds of normally accepted political behavior.

DiogenesLamp: "The Corwin amendment was just another such attempt."

And still with your lies about Corwin?

In fact, Corwin did not begin with Lincoln, but rather with Mississippi Democrat Senator Jefferson Davis in early 1860 laying out his conditions (all defending slavery) for preventing secession.
After the November 1860 election, many others took up the challenge of finding "compromises" to prevent secessions.
All proposed "compromises" protected slavery.
All except Corwin were blocked by Republicans in Congress.
But Corwin was so watered down & weakened that even Lincoln could stomach it, and so Corwin passed with unanimous Democrat support and despite a majority of Republicans opposed.

Bottom line: Your examples of epic Republican corruption simply fail on close examination, and instead point to ways that Good Government Republicans have always tried to clean up the corrupt messes created and left by Democrats.

Ref: a famous Republican open convention:

DiogenesLamp: "Dirty tricks at the Wigwam: Chicago's first convention"

Seward was scaaaaary after his "irrepressible conflict" speech.
Here he tries to serve up some "mild beer"! 😄

Your alleged "dirty tricks" sound pretty mild to me, more or less politics as usual.
The facts that matter include:

NY Sen. Seward was the favored candidate, however favored by only about 1/3 of the total.
Seward was also hated and feared by many, for the same reasons DiogenesLamp hates and fears "northeasterners" -- Seward was "scaaaaary", a radical abolitionist, immigration supporter, and did not have strong support from NY Tribune editor Horace Greeley.
Greeley expected Seward to win but supported Edward Bates of Missouri.
After the November election, Pres. Lincoln appointed all of his main rivals to important positions -- Seward, Bates, Chase, Cameron & Dayton -- a practice we see even today, and is not considered either "corrupt" or "bribery".

Inside the Wigwam -- May 18, 1860 Republican Convention.
The Wigwam held up to 10,000 people.
Lincoln himself did not attend the convention.

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