Posted on 06/30/2024 5:00:30 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
The Supreme Court’s decision on Friday to discard the 40-year-old precedent established by Chevron v. Natural Resources Defense Council is a truly harsh blow against environmental protection and climate justice. By overruling the Chevron doctrine that required courts to defer to federal agencies when it came to implementing broadly written laws, the Supreme Court will make it much more difficult for the federal government to regulate pollution — including, but by no means limited to greenhouse gas emissions — among many other issues related to health, labor, consumer welfare, taxation, and on and on.
I am profoundly upset at the damage that this decision will almost certainly inflict on our environment and the fight against climate change. But more philosophically, this decision is also upsetting because it represents a demotion of science and expertise in government.
In the federal government, agencies are where detailed knowledge about specific, complex issues reside; in a healthy society, they would have some authority to manage those issues. In other words, the agencies are the ones that know stuff, and if government is to be effective, they should be able to do stuff.......
My colleague at Columbia, Gil Eyal, draws on a range of examples in his book, “The Crisis of Expertise,” to show how neither expert knowledge nor electoral politics on its own can reliably deliver public trust, or solve complex problems like climate change that have both scientific and political dimensions. Slogans like “listen to the science” gloss over this complexity. So one can’t simply say as a matter of principle that the experts in agencies should have some specific amount of power and no less. But they need to have some power; experts and elected officials need to collaborate for the system to work in the public interest.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
“ I am profoundly upset at the damage that this decision will almost certainly inflict on our environment and the fight against climate change.”
Have some tissues for your issues, Sobel.
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Since we know Climate Change, as hyped by our betters is a crock; I must assume that the writer is merely upset because The Supremes have drained some of the wind out of the cabal’s hotair ballon, thereby endangering his cozy schtick at CNN as a spokesperson for the fraud. And knowing that if common sense prevails and this “toxic CO2” charade falls apart, he’ll need to find something else to flack. JMHO.
““Green” = take from the poor and middle class and give to the rich”
You forgot...and the “Scientist” who do the bidding of the rich with their pre determined outcome “studies.
The Author is example A, but but he is a Columbia guy don’t you know!
Perhaps the problem is creating an actual full-time organization to do something. Once that something is done, what are they going to do next? Declare victory and quit? Doubtful. Maybe the answer is for Congress to establish a committee and then disband the committee once done. Air quality met the goal. Everybody has a party and goes home.
The Rural Electrification Board still exists with an ever-increasing budget. Same with the Department of Energy. If I cared, I could probably name a few more. Billions spent every year while adding NOTHING to the GDP.
“I am profoundly upset at the damage that this decision will almost certainly inflict on our environment and the fight against climate change”
...means that the SCOTUS did good!
“The Republican Party has opposed almost all environmental legislation since 1990.”
Interesting how he mentions 1990. I remember that well. So what happened in 1990?
It was the 20th anniversary of Earth Day, which is considered the beginning of the ‘Environmental Movement’. It was also the year that Communism was declared dead as about the only countries left actively pushing Communism were North Korea and Cuba (a few others still called themselves ‘Communist’, but had otherwise disowned it).
Well, that put Leftists in a bind, and back then I watch the news every night, and they made the biggest pivot I’ve ever seen in my life. They went, immediately, from attacking everything that the Republicans were doing to fight Communism (to the point of try to jail both Reagan and Bush Sr. for their parts in fighting Communism), to IMMEDIATELY telling us that the planet was doomed, unless we listened to same Americans who had been pushing Communism for most of the 20th Century. And it worked, they got Bush Sr. to sign the horrific laws that took advantage of the Chevron deference, particularly a renewal of the 1970 Clean Air Act (which was actually needed back then) - in 1990.
The problem, which became obvious during fights over Global Warming, was that the same Communists who were working with the Soviets to destroy the America from the outside (which is now documented), now moved their work to destroying America from the inside. And so here are.
“Climate Justice”… hey CNN, what’s that?
In other words, the Supreme Court stuck a huge blow to lying by federal agencies.
OH, NOES! I FEAR FOR THE REPUBLIC! s/
We learned much about “experts” (i.e., unelected government bureaucrats) during the Fauci Flu debacle as they converted science to political science while they incessantly issued demands, commands and reprimands to a frightened, woefully ignorant public.
” countless existing agency rules will be challenged in the courts — whose judges are no more democratically elected than agency staff members are, where technical expertise is no more present than in Congress and where many rules will eventually likely be shot down by the same justices who made this ruling.”
This seems to sum-up the claims of the Leftists. However, it falls flat when both Congress and the Courts can access and hire (as necessary) whatever experts they need. The argument is bogus.
Congress is still “government,” but this person thinks they don't know anything.
This is not the first!
The Major Questions Doctrine was also decided in our (not them) favor in 2022 and against the EPA.
Every once in a while, they throw us a bone.
Kinda like what we saw during the pandemic?? No science behind masks, six feet, etc.
who is this “our” you are referring to kimosobee??
If we could just get rid of qualified immunity, we’d be in even better shape.
“Yet regulation is how government balances the interest of the public to be free of pollution against that of corporations that would benefit from greater freedom to pollute.”
A bit of gaslighting here. Is it “greater freedom to pollute”, or is really giving the country a chance to fight back against ideologues who actively pushed for the Soviets to win the Cold War?
For example, when a US factory is forced to close thanks in part to ever-tightening ‘Environmental Laws’ in the US, there is a 99% chance that the factory will effectively be replaced by one in China (or a similar country), which will be allowed to pollute at 10 times the level of that our factory was polluting at, even before the Leftists further tightened the law and finally drove them out.
One can easily argue that the planet would have been FAR CLEANER if our ‘Environmental Laws’ hadn’t driven the US industrial base overseas (not to mention we’d still be able to make weapons for Ukraine, but that’s for another debate). The Leftist know all of that, so perhaps their motives are something else...hmmmm, what could that be?
Wonderful.
“Congress is still “government,” but this person thinks they don’t know anything.”
Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.
Mark Twain
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