Posted on 06/21/2024 8:21:27 PM PDT by hardspunned
Trump says that the war in Ukraine started because of NATO expansion.
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Trump has long said he could stop the war in Ukraine in 24 hours.
And he could!
nice alternative history, Russia took Crimeia way before any talk of NATO expansion.
Sorry, but Trump is wrong about this.
Putin just wants to reassemble the old soviet union, and is using NATO as an excuse.
Wrong. Madeleine Not So Bright pushed Nato expansion in the 1990s. BIG STUPID MISAKE.
“nice alternative history, Russia took Crimeia way before any talk of NATO expansion.”
The Gaslighting is getting old here, especially when it is OUTRIGHT LIES.
Ukraine should have never given up their nuclear missiles when the Soviet Union collapsed. They could not defeat the Soviet Union in a nuclear exchange but would have made such a no go for the Russia of today due to mass destruction. They gave them up do to promises by the West to defend them. We lied.
I would like to blame this on Biden but it is not him. This goes back to Bush and Clinton and the second Bush. The only way to have guaranteed Ukraine autonomy at that time was inclusion to NATO or arming them with nuclear weapons which they gave up do to promises by the West. As mentioned, we lied.
If the cost of war is to great one does not go to war. This whole damn war is a result of ignorance of the West. This should have never happened.
“Wrong. Madeleine Not So Bright pushed Nato expansion in the 1990s.”
What’s NATO expansion, did they invade somewhere?
Sorry, but you are way wrong. Look it up. This event you speak of happened when? Right. 2014.
Then see my link in post 9. The NATO expansion - The NATO Agression as I like to call it - began in 1991.
Trump and Putin have much in common:
1. They are both nationalists.
2. They are both Christians. And know their respective countries have their roots in Christianity and make no apologies about it.
3. Both refuse to accept or allow massive forced invasion at their countries' borders.
4. Both refuse to allow LGBTQ to pervert and destroy children's lives, and kill the nuclear family.
All of the above is why there is so much hatred directed at both men by the corrupt globalists, bankers, and lying media.
You don’t like the term NATO expression? Fine. Neither do I.
It doesn’t go far enough.
I call the NATO Ukraine situation a case of NATO Aggression.
NATO has been hostile to Russia over this issue since 1991.
I guess you were not around in the 1990s? NATO added Poland and a few other EAST european countries after the USSR fell apart. At that point the correct move would have been ending NATO. Know your history....
Trump is right.
Do a google search for FAB 9000. Also for FAB 5000.
In the last 24 hours, after Jake Sullivan told Ukraine 2-days ago (cough) they could strike anywhere in Russia, Russia responded with 2 FAB3Ks 12-hours apart. 1,400 TNT. The Hiroshima bomb was 1500O TNT. The FAB3K will destroy everything in a 900m radious.
The FAB 250s and 500s by comparison were used to break the stalemate and destroyed every Ukrainian fortified city allowing Russians to advance for the first time ever in the war.
Russia used the first two to test damage on Ukrainian HQ and troop concentration of a battalion.
Washington dismissed Putins peace proposal before he was finished reading it. NATO said thru SECDEF Austin that the US would Strategically Defeat Russia in Ukraine.
Now the FAB3K has appeared. Soon the FAB5000 and FAB9000 will be dropped.
Both Ukrainian and Russian observers have stated these are like mini nukes.
The FABs are what broke the stalemate. This happened since January 24.
I cannot imagine a flight of TU22Ms releasing 20 of these and literally wiping out a couple sq miles.
I believe when Russia started saying this week they were going to push to end his war before the end of October and NATO mocked them, they had already mass produced thousands of FAB variants.
Biden is finished. Ukraine could not withstand snaller FABs. They are finished.
Again, a squadron of TU22s dropping 2 dozen of these on a fortified town will have the same effect as a tactical nuke without the radiation.
Yesterday was Ukraine’s Hiroshima Moment.
We are witnessing history in the making.
If Russia can put 2 or 3 squadrons up at once, this war will end almost immediately.
This us going to be ugly. The propoganda out of NATO cannot hide what our lying eyes are going to see.
With Zelensky still avoiding Ukraine and headed to the middle east, Ukraine will soon be calling him the COWARD OF KIEV.
Listen, I totally support Trump calling for the other members of NATO to start paying their fair share.
But that is not the same thing as opposing membership in NATO.
And I will always be 100% against Russian expansion, and I HATE Putin and his dream to reassemble the old Soviet Union. I hope Ukraine continues to fight Putin and buries his dream like Afghanistan buried the soviet union.
“It’s good to see the truth about Project Ukraine being spoken so confidently. Trump needs to shine the light of truth on this catastrophe and to crucify Biden on it.”
And, hopefully, we can now get rid of those trying to Gaslight this site by claiming that Russia wasn’t intentionally goaded by the Neocons. We’ve had over 2 years of having to deal with them.
You need to remember how President Trump handled Russia as president, he talked sweet and friendly while cornering Putin with American troops moved closer to them, reactivating V Corps and putting it in Poland, starting a massive buildup and modernization of our nuclear weapons, canceling the destruction of vast stocks of older cluster munitions, withdrawing from IMF, having American troops training in Ukraine and ending the ban on sending weapons to Ukraine, and then after his presidency calling for Ukraine to get those MIGs “and more” early in the invasion and saying we should send nuke subs to threaten Putin to shut up with his nuclear war threats.
Talking soft with these guys is Trump’s style, the opposite of Obama who talked tough but whose actions were weakening NATO and our defenses against Russia.
Putin didn’t put off the invasion because Trump was appeasing him, he delayed because he feared President Trump.
And the sanctions against Russia backfired big time.
Bingo. Never Trumpers and RINOs all supported Biden.
That’s fair. The people that really piss me off are the ones who continue to knowingly LIE about what caused this war...and now they are also claiming that Trump is lying. That crap doesn’t belong on this site.
Bush to press for Ukraine and Georgia in NATO
April 1, 2008
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