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Terrified of ‘escalation,’ Biden is being bluffed into losing Ukraine to Putin
Nypost ^ | 06/21/2024 | Post Editorial Board

Posted on 06/21/2024 5:43:04 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

‘History is watching. The failure to support Ukraine at this critical moment will not be forgotten,” President Biden said on the two-year anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

“Now is the time to prove that the United States stands up for freedom and bows down to no one.”

Strong words.

Too bad they are nothing more.

Time and again, Biden has bowed down to Vladimir Putin, allowing the tyrant to dictate the terms of this unlawful, immoral invasion.

Nowhere is this more true than the disgraceful limitations on Ukraine’s strategy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: biden; bidencrimefamily; escalation; fjb; inbredneoncons; killkillkillforpeace; mic; murdochmoloch; neoconpsychos; neoconsarefools; putin; russia; terrified; ukraine; welfarewar; worldwariii; ww3; zelenskyqs
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I’ve said from the beginning that Biden and Putin are in cahoots.

Longer it goes on, longer the big guys get 10%


41 posted on 06/21/2024 7:58:17 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

“There was peace and quiet until Russian “irregulars” invaded en masse, claiming to be “separatists”.”

There hasn’t been “peace and quiet” since 2014. Covid fears caused a substantial lull.

“Russian “irregulars” invaded en masse”

Can you give a date and link please. Was it shortly before the war exploded?

There were undoubtedly Russian “irregulars” but the “en masse” is unknown to me.


42 posted on 06/21/2024 7:58:44 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: All

H/T JOHN SOLOMON——There are still wide swaths of documentation kept under wraps inside the Biden State Dept that could substantially alter the public’s understanding of what happened in Zelensky-Biden-Obama-era Ukraine. President Trump should order these released:

<><> Daily intelligence reports from March through August 2019 on Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelensky and his relationship with oligarchs and other key figures.
<><>What was the CIA, FBI and U.S. Treasury Department telling Trump and other agencies about Zelensky’s ties to oligarchs like Igor Kolomoisky, the former head of Privatbank, and any concerns the International Monetary Fund might have?
<><>Did any of these concerns reach the president’s daily brief (PDB) or come up in the debate around resolving Ukraine corruption and U.S. foreign aid?
<><>CNBC, Reuters and The Wall Street Journal all have done recent reporting suggesting there might have been intelligence and IMF concerns that have not been fully considered during the impeachment proceedings.

<><>State Department memos detailing conversations between former U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch and former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko. He says Yovanovitch raised the names of Ukrainians she did not want to see prosecuted during their first meeting in 2016. She calls Lutsenko’s account fiction.
<><>State Department officials admit the U.S. embassy in Kiev did pressure Ukrainian prosecutors not to target certain activists. Are there contemporaneous State Department memos detailing these conversations and might they illuminate the dispute between Lutsenko and Yovanovitch that has become key to the impeachment hearings?

<><>State Department memos on U.S. funding given to the George Soros-backed group the Anti-Corruption Action Centre.
<><>There is documentary evidence that Obama’s State Dept funded this group,
<><>and that a Ukrainian prosecutor sought to investigate whether that aid was spent properly
<><>and that the US embassy pressured Ukraine to stand down on that investigation.
<><>How much in total did Obama’s State Dept give to this group?
<><>Why was a US federal agency giving money to a Soros-backed group?
<><>What did taxpayers get for their money?
<><>were they any audits to ensure the tax dollars were spent properly?
<><>Were any of Ukrainian prosecutors’ corruption concerns legitimate?
<><>Did Zelensky ever comment?
<><>Where are transcripts of Joe Biden’s calls and meetings with Zelensky from April 2014 to January 2017
<><>(at the time Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma)
<><>What did Biden say to Zelensky WRT firing the prosecutor investigating Burisma?
<><>Did Biden confer at all with Zelensky?
<><>Did Zelensky or any Ukrainian officials ever comment on Hunter Biden’s role at the company?
<><>Was any official assessment done by U.S. agencies to justify Biden’s threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. aid if Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin wasn’t fired?


43 posted on 06/21/2024 7:58:59 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

read about the missing hand:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0HZ0UH/


44 posted on 06/21/2024 8:05:19 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: hardspunned
The CIA were the ones marching on Kiev

800,000 CIA officers? Who knew they had the budget?

45 posted on 06/21/2024 8:06:59 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. More please!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I don’t give a crap about Russia or Ukraine. I give a crap about my own country being destroyed from within.


46 posted on 06/21/2024 8:36:23 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: SoConPubbie
"How come everything about the Ukraine sounds like CIA propaganda?"

All this claptrap sounds exactly like the $hit they fed us in the 50's and 60's. I don't need a re-run of that time. I already lived through it.

47 posted on 06/21/2024 8:38:25 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Freest Republican
"It was supposed to be over in 6-8 weeks"

That's what the British said about the Revolutionary War, and what the government in Washington said about The Civil War.

48 posted on 06/21/2024 8:40:04 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Brian Griffin
Brian, there are hundreds of web links that will give you bits and pieces of the 2014 timeline. Better you start reading dead tree accounts, and so far the best narrative I've come across is historian Timothy Snyder's Road to Unfreedom The fascist clique here will excoriate him for being a Yalie, but he IS the real deal as a historian on eastern and central Europe. Speaks Russian, Polish and Ukrainian fluently, lives and teaches in Vienna, conducted hundreds of interviews for the book, (which has 60 pages of footnotes, nothing made up or hidden). Far, far better informed than any internet reporter.

That said, if you don't do dead tree books then Wikipedia for all its' faults has a reasonable bare-bones summary at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men_(Russo-Ukrainian_War)

49 posted on 06/21/2024 8:40:08 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. More please!)
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To: Brian Griffin

Russia has their own alternative GPS system called Glonass. Maybe we could jam it, but retaliation is attacks on our own satellites.

And then there is always good old fashioned inertial navigation systems. Better then ever before.


50 posted on 06/21/2024 10:21:09 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: mass55th

[my own country being destroyed from within.]

That doesn’t seem to be a priority ...


51 posted on 06/21/2024 10:59:49 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Liz
US tax dollars helped Ukraine

Not really. It is worse than that. All tax dollars are expended before we get around to foreign giveaways. Interest on the debt has overtaken Defense as the #1 budget item. The giveaways are paid with printed or borrowed dollars.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/interest-costs-national-debt-just-surpassed-spending-defense-medicare

Interest costs on the national debt just surpassed spending on defense, Medicare

In first 7 months of fiscal year 2024, spending on net interest surged to $514B

Government Spending
By Megan Henney
Fox Business
Published May 17, 2024 12:02pm EDT

[excerpt]

In the first seven months of fiscal year 2024, which began in October, spending on net interest surged to $514 billion, surpassing spending on both national defense ($498 billion) and Medicare ($465 billion). In fact, interest costs have topped spending on veterans, education and transportation combined.

[...]

From just four decades ago, the debt skyrocketed from $907 billion to more than $34.5 trillion as of Wednesday afternoon, according to the latest Treasury Department figures.


52 posted on 06/21/2024 11:07:11 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: bimboeruption; Chad C. Mulligan

“Someone needs to give Chad C. Milligan and his zeeper comrades a rifle and a plane ticket to Ukraine.”

Oh no, not him, but he’d send my sons in a red hot minute. Yeah Chad, I have three military age sons. What do you have to give?


53 posted on 06/22/2024 12:08:24 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

I gave at the office.


54 posted on 06/22/2024 2:42:52 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. More please!)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

“I gave at the office.”

You’re one sick weirdo.


55 posted on 06/22/2024 2:54:56 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1
A little humor to counter your sophomoric argument.

There won't be any wider war unless the West encourages Putin with weakness.

The Romans knew...Si vis pacem, para bellum.. Still true after 2000 years.

56 posted on 06/22/2024 3:24:26 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. More please!)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The reality is you know nothing about them, otherwise, you wouldn’t said what you said. They have one of the largest human trafficking operations in the world, drug smuggling, organ harvesting, they are renowned for their money laundering operation, just to name a few. They are not the idyllic society that you fantasize it to be.


57 posted on 06/22/2024 4:56:26 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Putin has lost. Mother Russia is withering to nothingness as we post


58 posted on 06/22/2024 4:59:08 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

THEY had/have the makings of a civilized European state: Rule of Law...


Surely you jest.

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet.


59 posted on 06/22/2024 5:26:42 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Robert DeLong
The reality is you know nothing about them, otherwise, you wouldn’t said what you said. They have one of the largest human trafficking operations in the world, drug smuggling, organ harvesting, they are renowned for their money laundering operation, just to name a few.

You know all this because you have been told by whom?

60 posted on 06/22/2024 5:48:19 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. More please!)
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