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IDF Approves Plans for ‘Offensive in Lebanon’
Breitbart ^ | 06/18/2024 | JOEL B. POLLAK

Posted on 06/18/2024 12:39:53 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: hardspunned

“Success would ONLY be achieved when ALL of Hamas was eliminated.”

The IDF is well on the way to doing just that.

“Savages”, it makes the genocide go down a little easier for the non true believers like you.”

No Jew on the planet is advocating the extermination of every muslim. However every muslim on Earth is commanded by their pedophile “prophet”’to exterminate not only every Jew on Earth but every person who refuses to bow down to the syphilitic child rapist they worship.

So not only is your definition of “catastrophe” flawed your definition of “genocide” is, too.

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21 posted on 06/18/2024 4:24:06 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Happy Hunting!!


22 posted on 06/18/2024 4:24:11 PM PDT by OKC Patriot ("Never Forget"!)
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To: hardspunned

So saith the ignorati from the back row of the peanut gallery


23 posted on 06/18/2024 4:34:34 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: hardspunned

Well gee, you’re so clever! Did your boyfriend tell you what to type?

You are an idiot who enjoys collaborating with, and advocating for, the evil components of humanity.


24 posted on 06/18/2024 5:14:06 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Good!


25 posted on 06/18/2024 6:20:49 PM PDT by Mlheureux
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To: hardspunned

[The IDF real purpose of genocide is going along swimmingly. The stated goal of “complete destruction” of Hamas has been a complete and total failure. Not only has the Arab world been united against Israel and the US but so has the rest of the non decadent West world.

Check out the votes in the UN for verification of my statement and the debunking of yours. Hezbollah kicked the IDF out of Lebanon twenty years. NOW, Hezbollah is armed to the teeth with drones and missiles. If Netanyahu goes against Hezbollah, Zionism will finally get its comeuppance.]


The world has never not been united against Jews. The one country that has supported Jews more often than not is the US.

During the first Yom Kippur War, when Israel fought to avoid extermination, Europe not only refused to send aid, it refused overflight rights for US aid. Every hand was turned against Israel.

The Russians only gave the Arabs all the gear they wanted, they prepared to intervene directly with Russian military units. (Even then, Russian military competence wasn’t all that. 3 years before, they sent up Russian pilots against Israel, lost 5).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rimon_20

During Yom Kippur I, the world, including Europe, backed the Arabs to the hilt. Israel not only held the Arabs at bay, it approached artillery range of the Egyptian and Syrian capitals. You could say it was an Israeli defeat since Israel was taken by surprise, and Arabs certainly do. But in their hearts of hearts, Arabs and other Jew haters recognize that Israel’s continued existence is in itself a victory. To survive as a state in the face of almost universal hatred of Jews and support for its 2b Muslim enemies is a towering achievement.

For some perspective on Yom Kippur I, Ukraine has lost almost 10x the territory of the entire state of Israel against an attacking Russian force maybe 1/4 that of the Arab armies invading Israel in 1973. But Israel not only held the Arabs, it pushed them back.

Whereas in Yom Kippur 2, the Arab attackers have not only not occupied any part of Israel more than a day, their cities are now rubble. Hamas is not only unable to defend itself against the relentless reduction of its men, it has seen the destruction of the families who decided to act as human shields for their fighting men.

After 9/11, it took decades and $2T for the US to gradually reduce the capabilities of al Qaeda and its offshoots to a manageable level. This was with the US threatening Arab and Muslim governments to cut off financial flows, and European governments cooperating. Whereas the entire world supports Hamas’s genocidal goals, and both the US and Europe are providing Hamas with financial backing and literally feeding it.

Israel won’t destroy Hamas as a military force in a matter of months. But it will, as the US did with al Qaeda, reduce its numbers faster than it can regenerate them.

In WW2, the deaths of 12% and 5% of Germany and Japan respectively, including 2m German and 1m Japanese city dwellers, were key to a quiet postwar era. Arab submission will probably require a similar death toll in Gaza. Between 100K and 200K Gazans have to die in order for Hamas to lose its hold on the population. Just as not every German or Japanese soldier had to be killed, not every Hamas guerrilla has to fill a grave for Hamas to be gutted as a force able or willing to mount another 10/7. The Taliban rules Afghanistan as it once did. But it will be a long time before it sponsors another 9/11.

Re Hezbollah, it has demonstrated an ability, in defensive positions, to maul an Israel shackled by rules of engagement that prevented it from bombing civilian dwellings from which fire was being directed. Now that those shackles are off, Hezbollah will likely share the fate of Hamas when Israel finally turns its attention northward. Significant parts of South Lebanon will become rubble, and a large permanent enclave for Lebanese Christians and maybe Druze might be created in which they can shelter from Shiite dominance.

Whatever Israel’s designs for the region, Hezbollah is likely to have both fewer men and vast equipment stores destroyed. For a long time, Israel avoided Hamas ammo dumps and other targets located among civilians. Just as it no longer does, a similar evolution is taking place in Israeli rules of engagement with respect to Hezbollah stores.


26 posted on 06/18/2024 7:04:41 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: MplsSteve

[I hope it goes better than the last large-scale incursion into southern Lebanon.

Hezbollah is really entrenched in that area - bunkers, tunnels, etc.]


They went with US ROEs. That was a mistake - and not only for the US. This is war, not a police raid. Human shields cooperate only for as long as the risk is minimal. They get enough civilians killed by sheltering among them, and the civilians will start pointing them out so they can be killed.

A new invasion will operate by Gaza rules. Taking fire from a position? Level the structure. No fancy footwork necessary to ensure civilians aren’t present.


27 posted on 06/18/2024 7:28:10 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

The Russians won in Chechnya but they played by their rules. Not the West.


28 posted on 06/18/2024 7:29:55 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

[The Russians won in Chechnya but they played by their rules. Not the West.]


Those used to be universal rules. They were the rules used in every major war. Then European and American leftists decided to tie America’s hands and spineless American pols went along. GIs aren’t disposable factory widgets. GI lives matter.


29 posted on 06/18/2024 7:47:24 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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GI lives matter.

Just FYI, the military draft is unconstitutional. No slavery or involuntary servitude according to the constitution.

30 posted on 06/18/2024 7:50:00 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

[Just FYI, the military draft is unconstitutional. No slavery or involuntary servitude according to the constitution.]


Not according to a unanimous decision of the Supreme Court.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Draft_Law_Cases

The state has not just the right, but the duty to defend itself from its enemies. A military draft is one of the ways through which that defense might be mounted. The political price is severe, which is why politicians try to avoid resorting to it unless absolutely necessary.

In WW2, perhaps half the nation’s able bodied men, ~16m in all, were drafted, and even then it was a close-run thing. That’s why I laugh when people claim either side, Ukraine and Russia, is running out of men. In % terms, they are at maybe 1/10 of the US levy. From a manpower standpoint, they are at a fraction of what they can draw upon.


31 posted on 06/18/2024 8:14:20 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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